Re: Arizona HOA roads

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:24:00 -0700, richard wrote
(in article <15wt2xlr5soo9.dlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>):

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:52:40 -0700, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:

"richard" <member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

Back when I was involved with a law enforcement explorer post in Ohio I
had
learned of a law Ohio had. That any Ohio police officer could write
various
citations on private property that was dedicated for public use. Which
includes the parking lots of the numerous businesses. So you could be
cited
for failure to stop at stop sign on private property. Which really isn't
private property any more.

Interesting, but if a property owner puts up a stop sign, he presumably
wishes people would stop there, so I could imagine some owner actually
wanting the cops to enforce it. After all, there's no other way to enforce
it--I don't think a citizen's arrest would fly.

I believe in that case the citations issued by the officer would not be
legal. As the county/city government would have had to have some law making
the sign legal. At least on public roads that an HOA might consider their
jurisdiction.

On property such as a shopping mall, then yes, the property owner has the
legal right to install signs at his discretion.

In most states, STOP signs need to be written into the local municipal code
for local streets. And there are the pesky State MUTCD standards that most
HOAs do not follow.

I would like to know how the HOA would be able to enforce it, except by
revoking the right of passage in the future.

Ralph

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