Re: The Freeway Haters Strike Again!! The Attempt to Raze The Claiborne Elevated Freeway in NOLA



[responding directly to rshersh]


A couple of things for ya.

More than a couple, I see, but I will respond.

There are having a lot of probs with structures in NO and S Louisiana
settling severely and other serious maint probs.

Yes, we have a major settling problem...that is why they decided to
elevate the section of I-49 South between Raceland and New Orleans in
its entirity, along with the issue of hurricane evaculation.


You realize there is an alternative, I-610.  It is not like there is
only surface streets.

Yes, I-610 is an alternative for through I-10 traffic through
NOLA...but it bypasses the French Quarter/CBD/Garden District area,
and to funnel through traffic along it exclusively instead of existing
I-10 would require both expensive upgrades (including possible
elevating of its entirity) as well as an major upgrade to the existing
I-10/I-610 interchange.

If the Claiborne Elevated was removed and converted to a 4-lane at
grade surface boulevard as proposed, then persons wanting to connect
to the highway system downtown would be forced to take either
Esplanade Ave to Elysian Fields Ave to access I-10 to the east, or
Canal or Broad St. to access I-610/relocated I-10 to the north. Hardly
a viable alternative for travellers, I'd say.

Plus, most Interstates were built with the design of connecting inner
cities together, not bypassing them.

Also, realize it is strictly local and regional traffic, thru
interstate traffic is on I-12.

100,000 VPH on the Claiborne Elevated...that's a hell of a lot of
local and regional traffic, I'd say.

Plus....would you be willing to foot the bill for the proposed Baton
Rouge outer loop or widening I-12 all the way from BR to Slidell in
order to cover the increased "thru interstate traffic"?

Also realize I-49 is only going to be local and regional traffic.

Yes, but the main justification for I-49 South is not only handling
the existing traffic using US 90, and to relieve traffic on I-10, but
to improve hurricane evacuation along all locations using US 90 and to
access critical economic hubs throughout South Louisiana.

Besides, I-49 is immaterial to this issue, except as for its southern/
eastern terminus; which currently would be at the existing Claiborne/
I-10/Ponchatrain Expy. interchange.

I don't know that I favor fed financing for an expensive road that
only serves local and regional traffic.

Then you would have opposed I-10 going through New Orleans to begin
with, then?? Why not just convert that into a commuter rail corridor
and funnel its traffic onto US 61, and realign I-10 along I-12?? Then
try to explain why a metropolitan area with still 300,000+ people
should be denied access to an important Interstate corridor.

NO has lost what, half its population after Katrina.

Yeah..and it still has well over 300,000 people still. Your point
being??


And were I escaping from NO for a hurricane, I don't know that I would
want to use I-49.

Who said anything about I-49?? This is about the Claiborne Elevated
proposed to be torn down.
But, to directly respond: I-49 is NOT designed directly for evacuating
NOLA, but communities further west (Morgan City, Houma/Thibodeaux, New
Iberia) who depend on the US 90 corridor.


Anthony
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