Re: Article: Every New Car Will Be A Hybrid By 2020

On Aug 18, 8:43 am, Rich Piehl
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Larry G wrote:
On Aug 18, 1:16 am, "Jack May" <jack....@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Larry G" <gross.la...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Aug 17, 8:21 pm, John Lansford <jlnsf...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Larry G <gross.la...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 17, 3:01 pm, John Lansford <jlnsf...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Larry G <gross.la...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:52 am, "Jack May" <jack....@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There's a liability concern that most states are reluctant to address
when it comes to using what many people consider "wasted" land along
interstates. Slow moving vehicles have to exit/enter an interstate
from the shoulder instead of a ramp; that's a hazard. Large equipment
trucks may need to park on the shoulder or have a paved access road to
the utility; that can be a hazard. The FHWA is very reluctant to
grant utility access on interstates for these reasons, as well as
other uses such as growing food for humans or cattle.
still.. it's a tremendous
amount of under-utilized
land.... that could
be useful for wind and solar... and it's in a place where it
would not
be perceived by most folks as an
aesthetic degradation.... and each
wind turbine can generate thousands of dollars
You have got to be kidding.  With the environmentalist claiming the world
will come to an end in northern Alaska with a few acres out of millions for
oil drilling, they will find some reason that every acre of the west is
unique that nothing is far too valuable to cover it with solar cells or wind
turbines.

 there is quite a bit of land that is not used these days. Perhaps not
in urbanized parts of California but even in the East there is a lot
of under-used land available.

re: highway "beautification"...   personally, I think wind turbines
and solar panels are as cool as stacked interchanges and some highway
bridges.

Unused land, yes.  A good part of Nevada for starters.  But there are
going to be defenders of most of it for one reason or another.  Again,
individual small pieces each unwilling to compromise on their minor
little position each making for a giant log jam that is makes the
situation difficult.


yes.. no option is going to be okay with every single group... but
that does not mean that the idea should not be discussed and if a
majority of folk support it (just like oil drilling) - then move
forward.

I like the 75% threshold on issues on this. It's a clear super-
majority and no matter what the arguments against are - it's
sufficient in my mind for moving forward.

Much land is already set-aside. For instance, wetlands... Wetlands
usually allow power lines across them - with polls in the water so
what would be the difference if a poll supported a turbine or solar
panels rather than power lines.

Power line rights of way are also possible venues for solar panels for
sure - as the power companies spend right now large sums of money
paying folks to keep the vegetation cut back.. why not kill two birds
with one stone?? solar panels..feeding electricity into the grid and
a the same time covering vegetation that you don't want to grow
anyhow?

Waterways.. especially around existing bridges and shallows ...

and then of course highways.... why not have solar panels affixed to
or adjacent to guard-rails where they can be serviced easily?

same deal with bridge abutments... the same abutments that now have to
have grass and other vegetation cut back ... money paid to keep the
vegetation low

and medians? same deal.. the DOTs are one of the biggest grass cutting
operations in the world... why not use solar panels to produce power
and at the same time reduce the need to cut that grass?

Parking lots... where there are storm water runoff issues ....why not
have solar panels that make electricity while diverting rainwater to
grass buffers before it ever hits the pavement and carry contaminates
into creeks?

if you think about it.. there are lots and lots of places ....yes..
some will turn out not to be useful or practical but others will...

right now.. most of us are simply not oriented to think about all the
different potential locations for wind/solar...



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