Re: adding tolls to existing interstates



On Nov 27, 12:57 pm, "pigsty1...@xxxxxxxxx" <rshe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:31 am, Adam Prince <aprinc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Nov 23, 5:15 pm, "pigsty1...@xxxxxxxxx" <rshe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 23, 4:06 pm, Adam Prince <aprinc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 23, 3:49 pm, "pigsty1...@xxxxxxxxx" <rshe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 23, 3:24 pm, "Luxury Yacht" <Throatwarb...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"pigsty1...@xxxxxxxxx" <rshe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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If we are going to have a fitting transportation system for the 21st c
the transportation taxes that companies like W-M pay on its trucks
have to become realistic.

But what are the trucking liens going to do with those icnreased frieght
rates? They aren't going to absorb them. Where is that money going to
come
from?

Did I say anything about that? Oil is headed up over $100 a barrel,
who absorbs that? Like everything else, guess who? The consumer.

But who absorbs a very inefficient and crumbling transportation
system, that is only going to get worse.

Take a look at any STIP and see the huge number of unfunded projects.
And please don't say anything about diversions from gas tax funding.
That is the function of the elected legislature.

Short airline hops 300-500 miles are just too expensive in terms of
the national air traffic system. There are way too many planes in the
air and the air traffic control system is falling apart. Those hops
take up valuable takeoff and landing space at crowded airports.

We are going to have to develop a viable passenger rail system that
can replace those 300-500 mile hops at a much cheaper cost. It does
not have to be the sort of high speed rail in Japan or Europe.

Conventional pssgr rail equipment using improved trackage and signal
systems could easily do 80-100 mph. They should be express trains
with inter city busses supplanting it in intermediate stops.

Yes it will have to be subsidized but most of the legacy airlines
would be long gone were it not for billions in federal bailouts.

And what does the current broken down air traffic control system cost?

Like I said I'd have to study your idea of replacing planes with trains
idea. As for comparing the US with Europe and Japan remember that the US
has for miles to cover. Look at how many airline flights run between
Paris
and Berlin or Tokyo and Osaka. Those are shorter hops than 500 miles.
Now
I'll grant you there's more people in those cities than say Midland to
Dallas or Sioux Falls to Minneapolis. But to a certain extent you're
comparing apples and oranges.

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I don't think so. I think if you compare the sheer numbers of short
hop flights in the US it is much higher then Europe or Japan.
Furthermore they have an extensive rail system that in many instances
precludes flying.

Take a look at the size of the land mass of the US versus Europe or Japan
and you'll have your answer

I know what the distances are in the US. I said 300-500 miles, not
even 500-1000 miles. The bulk of the flights that are clogging up the
US air traffic control system, and clogging up airports are from
300-500 miles that should be eliminated and replaced with a viable
passenger rail system.

So you believe that rail is viable , but small aircraft aren't? Obviously
the DOT disagrees with you.

That is nice. The FAA is just so well managed that I am surprised
that nothing ever goes wrong with the aviation system at any time.

Wait Randy...so you are saying the FAA needs better management?
Sounds like you do agree with me that transportation agencies need
reforms.

THat certainly seems to contradict you saying that DOT's do not need
any reforms or better management whatsoever.

Care to explain the differences in your opinions?-

If any state DOT or toll road agency were as horribly managed as the
FAA with its running from disaster to disaster, multiple collapses of
the air traffic control system, horrible and multiple contracting
blunders,

Sounds like a number of DOT's to me.

Do you get it yet????

Yup you are in agreement. DOT's like the FAA needs better management.

To compare the FAA with any state DOT is a fallacy and you know it.
Like the rest of the federal govt except for the corrupt, criminal,
and useless military, they are operating on starvation budgets and
this is what you get.

So you are saying throw more money at the FAA...first you said it
needs to be run better...and it's a joke. Now you are saying, it only
needs more money to run better?

Care to explain in detail why you think one way or the other or both?

<snip>


See how I get my shots in, thanks again for the opportunity.

But what are you gaining by these shots? It doesn't add to the
discussion; it only shows a vile hatred to a number of people. What
are your 'shots' that you are so proud of getting in gaining? I'm not
bothered by them.

What do throwing these poorly based and worded "pot shots" add to the
discussion? This is the arena of ideas...not Randy's forum of his own
personal axes to grind.

It's a shame Randy. You continue to miss the points of agreement we
have and between yourself and your so called 'antagonists' and you
also continue not to provide the details to support your position.
.



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