Re: how many motorists did Florida traffic engineers kill in August?



On Aug 31, 11:26 am, "misterf...@xxxxxxxxx" <misterf...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:15 am, "pigsty1...@xxxxxxxxx" <rshe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Aug 31, 10:45 am, "misterf...@xxxxxxxxx" <misterf...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Most left turn collisions with oncoming traffic occur at green lights-
which are found in abundance in Florida! Few left-turn collisions
occur at blinking red arrows.

In Michigan and most NORTHERN states where traffic engineers seem to
display more intelligence and are quick to react to injury and death
statistics:

They know that a blinking red left-turn arrow (as well as a blinking
left-turn yellow arrow)is well understood by all drivers to mean:
oncoming traffic has the green light and does not stop!

Many Florida left turn lanes do not have their OWN left-turn COMPLETE
signal configuration. Florida left-turn signals are often combined
with the signal for the thru lane(s) which are to the right. The
result is a massive continuing epidemic of collisions with oncoming
traffic. It's time for Florida traffic engineers to WAKE UP and
standardize with the rest of the country!.

Left-turn carnage is EPIDEMIC in Florida!

The man in a position to correct all the left-turn carnage is:

Florida Dept of Transportation:

Ken Bass
ph (863) 519-2495 (Barlow, Fl)

Mt suggestion: Call him and:
Politely YELL BLOODY MURDER!

ALSO EMAIL DOT: fdot.pio@ dot.state.fl.us

Cindy.Clemmons-Ade...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Mike Corman

misterf...@xxxxxxxxx

Sir, you are so wrong on so many levels, I have no idea whwre to
start. Why do you think every traffic sig in the state of FL is under
the jurisdiction of FDOT? Most traffic sigs ar county operated and
maintained. The proper place to pitch your bitch is with the
respective county.

Continuing, most every signalized intersection has a left turn slot
and they use a leading green protected left turn sequence. I have no
idea what you complaint is about that.

The left turn sequence allows dual protected left turnes from the
opposite lanes. Again I have no idea what you are bitching about.

Are you saying 24/7 there should be rather an unprotected left turn
with a blinking arrow??? Than would certainly be mayhem.

You know what I think, you got a ticket for turning left after the
arrow changed to red, and you are crying like a baby. Grow up man,
pay attention to the sigs and you will not have those problems.

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There was no red arrow. I suggest that you have never BEEN to Florida.


NO red left turn arrow, none? And that is a protected left turn?

You sir are a total jack ass. I lived in FL for a long time, drove a
cab in Miami Beach and Tampa. Now quit showing your abject
ignorance.

Please tell me all of the intersections in the state of FL, WITH
protected left turns, left turn slots, and NO left turn sigs, arrows.
I want a list of them all.





Frankly, I don't know where to start with your lack of information!

Go look at the 43plus serious accident left-turn injuries in Palmetto,
Florida where US 41 and 301 combine for a south-bound left turn. (near
the Manatee Convention center)


So you have mentioned ONE intersection. Have you discussed it with
the traffic engineers at FDOT Dist 1, which by the way is in Bartow,
not Barlow. Actually if you are so concerned why don't you start with
the Manatee County Traffic Engineers. That might be better then
parading your abject ignorance all over MTR.



Are you telling us that the signal configurations vary according to
county? If so, You have made my case for the lack of uniformity in
Florida traffic signals.


I TOLD you the standard left turn signal operation. If you bothered
to read. What I also told you, again if you bothered to read that
MOST of the traffic sigs in the state of FL are under COUNTY
juridiction rather the FDOT.




I suggest you start DRIVING around Florida instead of your little
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As I told you above, if you bothered to read I know FL quite well.
You are proving to be the ignoramus bitching on MTR where NOTHING can
be done about ONE intersection in the state of FL.

Now as I told you, if you were smart, you would go to the traffic
engineers at Dist 1 and the traffic engineers in Manatee County rather
then bitch about it to people that can do NOTHING.

Do you get it now????


Randy

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