Re: US 12 - Fort Atkinson, WI EIS hearing

Michael G. Koerner wrote:
> David Jensen wrote:
>> On 29 Nov 2005 08:13:23 -0800, in misc.transport.road
>> "Jon Enslin" <jenslin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> <1133280803.177639.92430@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>> Michael G. Koerner wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/news/2005/sw-us12deisph.htm
>>>>
>>>> Anyone going to this? I can't get off work, otherwise I would.
>>>
>>>
>>> I cannot. Here is the Executive Summary of the DEIS.
>>>
>>> http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/d1/us12fort/docs/deis-execsumm.pdf
>>>
>>> Basically, the in-city options are not going to alliviate the
>>> traffic problem nor is Option 3. Options 7 or 7a are the best for
>>> traffic alliviation but are the most expensive.
>>
>>
>> My thoughts:
>>
>> 1. No point.
>> 2. (all) agreed, accomplishes nothing in the long run.
>> 3. A permanent detour? Why bother.
>> 3a Will they be widening 39/90 soon?
>> 4. What a good idea -- if they had bothered to do a north/east
>> bypass in Whitewater.
>> 5. Can this really be cheaper than 7/7a?
>> 6. huh? Does this do anything?
>> 7. Second best.
>> 7a Best, but what's with DOT's obsession with using two miles of
>> current ROW. If they had planned decently, they could have run in a
>> more or less straight line from the south end of the 26 bypass to
>> the curve in the Whitewater bypass. These are almost as bad as the
>> Verona bypass (which at least has the excuse that it carries traffic
>> bound for Green
>> County.
>
> I kindof agree that 7a is the better way. BTW, if you think that the
> US 18/151 Verona bypass is strange, just wait until the WI 26
> Jefferson bypass is complete. ;-)

Here's the bypass map:
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/d1/wis26/docs/centralpreferred.pdf

It is just incredibly stupid that WisDOT didn't plan a combined Fort /
Jefferson bypass to begin with in the 1990's. To have both bypasses on the
west side and then swing over to use two miles of the existing ROW is dumb.
If they would have been combined in the first place they would have saved
probably about a mile of new-terrain ROW and the route would be shorter too.

--
Craig Holl
Mechanical Engineer; New Berlin, WI
www.midwestroads.com
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