Re: Delay in response blasted

"Larry Gross" <gross.larry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>You know, there is a lot of ridiculous conversation in my view.
>
>1. - What U.S. entity rendered disaster aid for the Tsumi?
>
> The U. S. MILITARY

Because legally they didn't have to wait to ask for permission to act.

>2.- Did the U.S. Military demand CONTROL in Indonesia as an
> explicit condition of rendering aid?
>
> NO!

Because legally they didn't have to wait to ask for permission to act.

>3. - Once there, did the U.S. Military make excuses about the lack of
> a communications network or excuses about a lack of command and
> Control?
>
> Once, again - NO! - They brought that stuff with them. They ALWAYS
>DO.
>
> So what is different when the U.S. suffers a similar disaster?
>
> Well for one - the THEORY is that FEMA does in the US what the
> U.S. Military does elsewhere in response to disasters.
>
> Oh.... we blame the Mayor of NO (but note we don't blame the Mayors
> of ALL of the other towns and cities devastated - ONLY the N.O.
>Mayor)

Because his city was the only one that called for a mandatory
evacuation, then failed to implement the plan he already had in place.

>... and we blame the Gov of Louisiana... for "not acting soon enough"
>and
> for refusing to cede authority to the Feds....but of course we don't
>blame
> the Govs of Mississippi and Alabama (Republicans if I recall)....

I'm not blaming the LA governor for not giving up her authority to the
Feds. I congratulate her for standing firm against Bush trying to take
over!

>... and FEMA - God help them - they are just plain incompetent - an
>organization
> controlled, not by professionals, but by political hacks who got
>their jobs as
> a direct consequence of our political plum reward system.... They
>simply
> don't know their arse from a hole in the ground.

That's essentially correct.

> Does anyone think that if FEMA provided an emergency communications
> network and a command and control protocol AND they had it IN PLACE
> BEFORE Katrina struck - that anyone... from Mayors to Govs would
>have
> complained... "rejected" such activities?
>
> Come on folks.... If we KNOW with a high level of certainy that a
>hurricane
> is going to HIT - what is the argument against deploying an
>emergency
> communications network and establishing a command and control
>protocol
> BEFORE it hits?

A very good question. Now where do you put it where it will do the
most good?

> All of those helicopters and convoys and troops that showed up
> 4 days AFTER should demonstrate clearly - ipso facto - that was the
>ONLY
> truly effective response to Katrina. Why did we wait to do it?
>
> Oh.. I forget.. they had to get "permission" and couldn't... Again...
>other
> countries don't cede control to our military as a condition of Aid -
>why
> do we need to operate differently in the USA?

Yes we do. Do some research on the Posse Comitatis (sp probably) Act
and get back with us on what you found. The military is specifically
prohibited from acting within the US territory unless the civilian
leadership makes certain decisions and announcements.

John Lansford, PE
--
The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage:
http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
.

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