Re: An examination of the authority to tax.

legist dishonestly snipped context and wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:14 am, YouDontOwnMe <YouDontOw...@xxxxx> wrote:
legist wrote:
On Sep 2, 11:52 am, YouDontOwnMe <YouDontOw...@xxxxx> wrote:
legist wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:38 am, YouDontOwnMe <YouDontOw...@xxxxx> wrote:

I started this discussion in regard to AUTHORITY to tax compensation for labor. And I am using the issue of AUTHORITY
to tax compensation for labor to examine the issue of
AUTHORITY to tax in the first place.

The discussion would go a lot better if you defined what you
mean by "authority". After that, you might explain whether
income tax law is different from any other type of law with
respect to the "authority" to enforce.

"Authority" is the right to tell me what to do. What gives
anybody the right ("authority") to tell me what to do?

Now you're using another ill-defined term: "right". Are you referring to legal rights, moral rights, or what?


Yes.

Now answer the question instead of dodging it with semantic games.
What gives anybody the right, authority, permission, prerogative,
license, claim, due, pretension, privilege, title, appanage, droit,
or perquisite to tell me what to do?

Or in other words, how does anybody get a higher claim to control my actions than I do?

Or in terms even a seven year old can understand: Who made them the
boss of me?

Yes, what? Now you're dodging the question. Something may be legal and not moral, and vice versa. It makes a huge difference whether you're talking about the legal right to tell you what to do or the moral right to do so.


You pretended you didn't understand the original question, so I asked it
again three different ways. You dishonestly snipped those questions so
you could continue to play stupid. I've replaced what you dishonestly
snipped, so it will now be quite obvious to the silent readers as to who
is dodging the question.

You attempt to stonewall the question of where does anybody get the
right to tell me what to do by attempting to create an argument over
whether the right to tell me what to do is a moral right or a legal
right. It is a distinction without merit.

Einstein liked to do thought experiments. Here's one for you:

You are to play the role of a legislator; a congressman; a politician.
You wish to tell me what to do so you have enacted a statute telling me
what to do. In the vernacular, you have passed a law.

The only definition of a law that I will accept and use is this:

Law is a politician's command, backed by threat of force, up to, and
including killing me, if I refuse to comply.

So, Mr. Politician,

1. Who made you the boss of me?
2. What gives you the right to tell me what to do?
3. What gives you the right to order my death if I refuse to obey you.



Income tax law is NO different than any other law.


Glad to see you realize that, and that asking about the authority to
tax is no different from asking about the authority to punish rape or
murder.

You are so correct counselor. Congrats on stepping into a moral
minefield. Take care to keep your wits about you when I finally choose
to address your attempt to distract.

Your attempt to imply that I am a proponent of rape and murder is noted.
You imply taxes are moral. Therefore I will assert that you are a
proponent of robbery.

I said nothing about morality for the simple reason that you refused to say whether you were coming from a legal perspective or a moral one. Accordingly, your claim that I implied anything about the morality of taxes or that you were a proponent of rape and murder is so much pathetic bullshit on your part.

Again, you dishonestly snipped context, so I just put it back where it was.

Having placed the context back, I have no reason to reply to your paragraph.

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