Re: Real Tax Protesting in Action



JackneySneeb@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Aug 27, 9:58 pm, nat <esen...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Freedom is contrary to human nature?
No, the "freedom" you advocate is contrary to human nature.

Freedom is freedom.

There is freedom envisioned by the idealist, then there is freedom
based on reality.


To put it bluntly, freedom ain't free.

If it ain't free, it ain't freedom.

If it were free, freedom would not be an issue.


Please explain how order is a feature of anarchy?
Physics, ed.
Gravity is a fine example of order.
No, gravity is a fine example of govt.

You are conflating the term "govern" (to control) with "govt" (by
which you mean "a group of men with the power to make laws for us all
to obey").

No, with govt I mean the system by which men are able to live in
freedom.
It's an analogy; in fact, it is YOUR analogy. You are the one that
brought up gravity.


Gravity brings order to particles of matter.

Yes. You asked, "Please explain how order is a feature of anarchy?"
Anarchy is the absence of "government."

Anarchy also means 'disorder'.

"Government" as you are using
the term it didn't exist prior to humans (and as I use the term,
doesn't exist now, either).

If you are going to create meanings as you go, your argument is
fallacious.

So in pre-historic times, anarchy
existed.

Why?- Because humans didn't exist?

Gravity existed back then, too. Gravity is an example of
how order exists alongised chaos in anarchy.

What you are saying is that since gravity existed before humans, order
is a feature of anarchy?


In anarchy, particles of matter, like people, do whatever they want,
remember?

Particles of matter have brains and can decide what to do, eh ed?

Pardon me. I thought you were making an analogy. I have since
discovered that since your mind is in such disorder, you just make
*** up as you go.


In other words, without gravity, particles of matter would be in
chaos. That ain't order, dumbass.

Anarchy contains elements of both order and chaos. You asked me to
demonstrate how there is order in anarchy. I showed you. You can't
allow yourself to accept the truth.

You demonstrated that gravity existed before humans.
Now I am supposed to accept that "there is order in anarchy"?

The truth is your mind is in disorder. No wonder you believe you are
an anarchist.


Your
body is an example of order - the systematic cooperative functions of
the organs in your body keep you alive.
What makes a cell become a liver instead of a heart? It's the DNA
which GOVERNS the cells.

You're conflating two different meanings of the term "govern." You
are equating "government" - the imaginary higher power you believe
makes men behave themselves - with the natural laws of physics, in
order to "prove" your belief in the inherent righteousness of
politicians is worthy.

I made an analogy because I erroneously thought you were making an
analogy.
I now know that I have been debating with an idiot.
Furthermore, no one with half a brain could ever conclude that
anything I have ever said could lead to the conclusion that I believe
in the "inherent righteousness of politicians."


In anarchy, no cell would know what to do. They each would be doing
whatever, iow, chaos.

No cell "knows" what to do, ed - cells don't have brains. They can't
know anything. They operate under the laws of biology, evolution, and
physics. They can't "know" what they are doing.

LOL
You don't know much, do you?
Every human starts as a single cell fertilized egg. How do you think
that single cell becomes a multi-celled differentiated organism if
that cell didn't have a "brain".


How many more examples do you
need?
Just ONE please.

I offered you one. You mangled it to suit your own religious agenda.

Now we know your real beef. It is with God.


The list is virtually endless.
All you have provided is a list of laws/govts bringing order to chaos.

It's two different things, ed, and you know it. You KNOW "government"
as you are using the term means a bunch of lying-ass, thieving
politicians. You KNOW a bunch of lying-ass, thieving politicians
don't make planets revolve around the sun. You KNOW you're being a
jackass.

What I do know is that you don't have a grasp of the English language
when you claimed "order is a feature of anarchy".


Unless you believe "government"
created gravity and supervised evolution, ed, you must concede anarchy
has a huge orderly component.
No, gravity is the governor. The origin of gravity would be another
discussion entirely.

Who elected Governor Gravity?

The same guy that said "order is a feature of anarchy."


The point, which you inadvertently proved, is that order PROGRESSES
from anarchy. Once order is achieved, anarchy no longer exists.

Bull***, ed. Bull - ***. Anarchy contains elements of both order
and chaos. It is the absence of "government" - the RIGHT to rule, or
"authority." It isn't the absence of physics.
--Jackney Sneeb

Who in their right mind would believe they were making any point by
saying a physical law (order) exists in anarchy (as used in its
political sense)?
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