Re: Serious, moderate discussion about Wesley Snipes

On Jul 27, 10:22 pm, nat <esen...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yep, you are not as smart as a 5th grader.

Another ad hominem instead of a coherent response . . .

The Mafia provides concrete for roads in parts of the country. You
therefore agreed to obey the commands of the Mafia? Wrong answer.
Wrong question, dumbass.
Since when does a vendor make the rules?- NEVER.
Anyone at all can make rules.
Rules don't mean squat unless they can be enforced, dumbass.

Try breaking into my home at 3AM (violating my rule) and see what
happens.

You can't make a retort without including a
nasty insult.
Tit for tat, dumbass.

All you prove by repetetive name-calling is that you haven't got a
coherent argument for your beliefs.

States aren't "the people."
They are in this country, dumbass.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

And more silly name-calling.

Tit for tat, dumbass.

More childish name-calling.

Words have meanings. You're a nihilist.

More childish name-calling.


Because they make money the old fashioned way - they STEAL it. And
most politicians know the old adage "You can shear a sheep many times,
but you can only skin him once."
Taxation ain't theft no matter how long you hold your breath, little
boy malloy.

Guod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
More childish name-calling.

And, since the People have the right to keep and bear arms, thus the
People maintain ultimate authority, your contention is beyond absurd.
Are you recommending armed revolt?
Why would I do that?
How can "the people" be the ultimate "authority" if you don't want
them to use their guns?
Responsible people know when to use them. Hint: not for fun.

Refusal to answer the question noted.

However, inherent in the 2nd Amendment is the right to revolt if need
be.
Where? How can the constitution recognize a RIGHT to revolt, and also
prescribe congress the power to suppress insurrection? That's just
one of the contradictions in your blind faith in a piece of paper to
grant you your "rights" (whatever they are).
Take a class and learn the meaning of paradox, little boy malloy.

Absence of substantive response noted.
More childish name-calling.

But take heed, you had better have the might. See, for example, the
Confederate States.
You say people have the right to revolt, yet you applaud the tyrants
who stomped on their right?
Liar.

More childish name-calling.

Oh yeah - I remember - you believe might
makes right! So much for god granting you your rights, like it says
in the Declaration of Independence, huh!
I am not so presumptuous to claim God grants me anything. I am happy
to be alive and have the chance to learn.

Okay, so you don't believe in the Declaration of Independence. Me
neither. We agree on something.
<shrug>

That's tyranny.
Tyranny is unilateral and despotic.
That's right, that's the United States.
Liar, the United States is a representative govt.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
Some words are self-explanatory.

Absence of substantive response noted.

Me: "The law is a unilateral command backed by force;"
You: "A unilateral command is tyranny."
Me: " The law is tyranny." Q.E.D.
And I said THE LAW IS NOT A UNILATERAL COMMAND.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
Back at you, dumbass.

More name-calling.

"Give us your money or we won't protect you from us" is pretty much
unilateral.
It is not when you have representative govt, dumbass.
"Representative government" is a myth. Pure propaganda to keep you
compliant and subservient.
Oh, yeah, you must be a conspiracy geek.

More silly name-calling.

In the land of free expression, you'd really have to be dense to
believe some of the nonsense you post.

Yet another ad hominem in place of a substantive response.

That's why TJ was all for revolution.
Is that why the constitution says congress shall have power to
suppress insurrections?
No, the power to suppress insurrections was to control lunatics like
you from turning into terrorists.
I'm for less violence, specifically a lot less institutionalized
violence on the part of the state.
Tell that to someone like the Sudanese.
Are you talking about "Honest" Bill's bombing of an aspirin factory in
Sudan to distract from his impeachment hearings? You just PROVED my
point.
No, I am talking about the genocide going on there. Don't you keep up
with the news?

Absence of substantive response noted.

You support that violence.
LIar.
<shrug> Name-calling doesn't refute my assertion.
Things freely asserted are freely denied, dumbass.

More vapid name-calling instead of a real response.

It is
your position that is terrorist. I remind you that I haven't killed
anyone since I gave up the belief in "government," which I couldn't
claim back in the days when I did believe in it.
Are you on a guilt trip, little boy malloy? I have never killed any
one.
I have, and it was only when I believed in "government" as you do.
And I suspect that you have never been ordered to kill anyone. It's
easy to be an armchair authoritarian, isn't it.
You mean a wannabe anarchist.
Looking at yourself in the mirror, eh? LOL.

More name-calling instead of a relevant response.

I'm sure if your
Grand High Exalted Mystic Rulers in Washington DC ordered you to shove
Jews into ovens you'd be very sad, as you explained to your victims
that might makes right, but that you're trying to get the law changed.
Do you have moral issues, little boy malloy?

Yet one more ad hominem instead of a real response to the issue.

When everyone agrees with you, you might have a point. Let me know
when that happens - just try to avoid holding your breath
waiting . . .
Most people . . .
. . .aren't everyone.
. . .around here think life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness are self-evident truths.
We went to war over it.
No you didn't. You just asserted you never killed anyone.
And you just asserted you quit killing, liar.

I did, and you just committed yet another ad hominem.

Which "god"?
There can only be one God, i.e, Supreme Being. If there were any more
than one, He wouldn't be Supreme, eh?
You don''t know which one. Okay . . .
<shrug>
--Jackney Sneeb

I don't give a *** what you believe, little boy malloy. I am just
here pointing out how what a psuedo intellect you really are.

Another vapid ad hominem instead of a response to the issue at hand.

God is running the show for sure, but He also gave us free will.
God is running things, and also he lets you run things, too. How can
he be all powerful if he lets YOU decide stuff on your own?
--Jackney Sneeb
We all have the free will to jump off a cliff; but, that ain't going
to keep anyone from smashing his brains.
You also have the free will to molest kids, rape women, hang
minorites, beat up homosexuals, and shove Jews into ovens.
So?

So how is your god "all powerful" if he lets you get away with things
like that?

When your
politicians order you to do things like that,
They don't, liar.

Another ad hominem and - denial of reality - noted.

YOU believe might makes
right,
All the evidence leads to that conclusion.

And that conclusion craps all over the belief that god makes the final
judgment of right and wrong.

and as long as you can get away with it - it IS right, and
screw what God thinks!
God can certainly take care of Himself. He is omnipotent. Now that's
might and He is always right.
I am not so presumptuous as to think I speak for God.

Another contradictory statement noted.

Just because we have free will, that doesn't take away any of God's
power.
What power?
For God to be God, He is omnipotent.

God is a myth.

You said if Hitler had maintained power HE would be
right today!
True.

Another contradiction of the belief in an omnipotent god noted.

You said whatever your beloved "authority" can get away
with determines "right."
No, dumbass, I said whatever is right, it takes might to make it so.
So quit your lying (I know- that's impossible).

"If Hitler would have remained in power, killing Jews
would have been right." ~ed senter, 07/05/2008
That's what you said, ed - that means whatever your beloved
"authority" can get away with determines "right."

Where does your god fit into that equation?
God is omnipotent; therefore, God is always right.

I thought your believed whoever had the most guns, tanks, and atom
bombs and the will to use them determined right?

BTW, god is a myth . . .
--Jackney Sneeb

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