Re: If Sarah Palin is the answer

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:43:14 -0400, Deucalion <someone@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:40:17 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySurmudgeon@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:31:12 -0400, Deucalion <someone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:59:59 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySurmudgeon@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:44:57 -0400, Deucalion <someone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:10:50 -0400, Observer <noone@nowhere> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:30:55 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:45:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:52:17 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySurmudgeon@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:22:01 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

Strabo <strabo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:00:56 -0400, Strabo
<strabo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

HH&C wrote:
On Aug 29, 8:13 am, Strabo <str...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Yes, only a private after his 21 month enlistment.
You'd have thought that a guy with some collitch (got
kicked out of Harvard for cheating on exams) would have
been an officer. Anyone else would have been. Or would
have been at least a sargeant in that length of time
during war, if he could stay sober and out of trouble.
At least he got to travel extensively and climb the
Matterhorn on private's pay. What was that in 1951?
Six dollars a month?
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About $80 a month for a PFC. Plus overseas pay.
That sounds really high to me, but I don't know.


Yeah, probably more like $65 or $70. Private First Class
was 2 pay grades above recruit - Boot -> Private -> Private
First Class

In 1965 an E1 got $78/month to my recollection.

I recall that in 1965 I got $40 a month. After basic
training it was about $10 more and another stripe brought
another $15?.

In 1966 and E2 got something in the mid-$90 range.


I have to say I have no confidence in my recollection. Only
that the pay was too little to buy much more than haircuts,
beer and movies.

Well, most of us also got three hots and a cot.

My profession got midnight chow cards and off-base housing
allowance. Midnight chow was the highlight of the day,
unhurried, great food, and peaceful. Toward the end of our 2nd
year we usually got E-4 and with seperate rats could live in
town comfortably.

I had a night job at a motel which eliminated the need for
renting a room or apartment. The money went a long way letting
me build hot rods and earn bucks from mechanic work too. We
often worked 48 on, 72 or 96 off. As long as the ILS and radar
had low down-time nobody fucked with us. No inspections,
parades, KP, nothing, just the job.

Have you seen any of the latest Military Pay Charts?

E-1 with less than 4 months of service $1,294.50 (plus the
infamous 3-hots & a cot)

E-1 over 4 months of service $1,399.50

E-2 all years $1,568.70

E-4 over years $1,986

Now more BAS & BAQ, they were combined together into one based
on housing costs in the local area. For example in my area an
over 18 E-6 makes $3,370 plus another $1900ish for the housing
allowance.

That's $63,240 a year plus any Hazardous Duty, Flight Pay, or
other Specialty Pays.


Obviously, times have changed. When I was in, it was Air Force,
Navy, Marines, Coast Guard or the draft. Selective Service was
alive and well.

When I was in..I got $108 per month.

You. Were. Never. In.

Poor gunner can't lie worth a damn can he? According to...

<http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables/
militarypaypriorrates/1972.pdf>

his base pay in 1972, as an E-1, with less than 2 years service was
288.00. Then there was combat pay for his heroic exploits. He
claims to have been married during his first tour, so add some more
there.

As an E-3 in 1972, his base pay would have been 380.10.

I'm not going to look up how much he should have made total, but
you're right. He was never in.

Gummer is lying again. If he did indeed serve in 1975, even as an
E-3, he earned a minimum of $418.20. _IF_ he served, add combat pay.
There is no fucking way, at the age he claims to be, that he earned
$108/month at the end of Vietnam.

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables/
militarypaypriorrates/1975.pdf

Gunner forgets that some of us were actually in the Army during the
time frame that he claims he was.

I wasn't in the Army but the USAF had the same enlisted pay schedule.

From his multiple faux pas' Gummer wasn't in the army either.


I was and his dog don't hunt worth a damn.

Gummer's dog is dead. Remember, the scumbag hung the dog to death with a
choker collar. Dogs have stronger necks than humans and it takes a very
long time to choke a dog to death. Choking a dog to death is an
agonizing, painful, fear-laden, torturous, demise.

I understand that people brag, stretch the truth and even lie. Some
people do so often. I can kinda ignore those folks but anyone who kills
a dog that way is beneath contempt.

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Regards, Curly
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