Re: Bush legacy - GPS in jeprody because of mismanagement
- From: "Basil Karlo" <clayface@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 02:14:21 -0500
<hot-ham-and-cheese@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:4e6357d8-a3f3-4a1a-9794-0e1216fcaed9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On May 24, 5:43 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:hot-ham-and-che...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>On May 24, 3:23 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> hot-ham-and-che...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >So which is it? Do you want an expensive military or a cheap
>> >military?
>> The issue is quality not dollars spent. I want a military fully
>> equipped without Bush era war profiteering.
>And you dedicated how much of your life to this cause? None?
>You're just a whiny crybaby.
>You could give a rats ass about those who served until it comes time
>for you to use them to further your hatred of Bush.
Nice tirade. Beats dealing with the subject and the facts of Bush's
neglect, doesn't it?
It merely sheds light on your motivation. That is all.
Once Obama is through, it will be a hate crime.
>> >> >Why didn't Clinton do the same for Somalia when they asked for it?
>> >> Why do you keep thinking I want to defend Clinton?
>> >Because you were silent for 8 years.
>> You keep telling us that but you weren't here.
>Yes I was. And you know where to look.
If you mean Google, I looked. You ain't here in the Clinton years.
Unless you were yet another sock puppet then, but you have never
fessed up to that. Give us a cite or two to some posts you made to
m.s while Clinton was president. Or did you use the no archive flag?
Use your noggin.
>> You were over in the
>> ham radio groups pushing your politics.
>I was there, too, pushing for the FCC to drop superfluous requirements
>to amateur radio licensing.
>Is there a rule how many groups I can post to?
As many as you want. That's your misdirection. The point is you were
not here.
The point is... I was and am.
>> Please post one cite of where I was "silent" about Clinton.
>Now you are being absurd. You wish me to prove a negative.
Gunner says he can do it. Aren't you up to that? Ask him to show you
how.
Stupid diversion.
You provide a link to any single criticism that you made while Clinton
was in office.
If you cannot, then my accusation that you were silent stands.
Still. You make a claim and you can't support it.
The fact that there are no "Winston Smith" postings during the Clinton
years >>> IS <<< proof that you were at best silent on the matter.
That's the trap of
misdirection that you like to set. You make claims that you know
can't be checked. It let's you lie with impunity. NeoCons like that.
Did you post your misgivings about Clinton under another nym? You
could provide a link, couldn't you?
Fine, find me a cite where I supported Clinton while he was president.
That isn't my comment. You say that you DID criticize Clinton. I say
there is no record of it.
Come up with something or admit you just have nothing to back your
statements. It really comes down to just that.
Actually, it comes down to your claim that you criticized Clinton.
There is absolutely no evidence of it under the name "Winston Smith."
>You need to provide cites where you criticized Clinton while Clinton
>held office.
I am the accused. You, the accuser, must prove that your charge is
correct. Do it or you will have proven that you are making things up.
I merely point out that you are forgiving of Clinton, but damn Bush at
every opportunity. Google bears that out.
Unless you can come up with a link to an old posting where, during
Clinton's term in office, you damned Clinton as well. The burdon is
on you. I'll keep saying that your claim is untrue (i.e., a lie), and
that there is no evidence of you criticizing Clint on any matter.
> Or accept my criticism of you for being silent on the
>matter.
Misdirection. I can produce plenty out of my usenet archives which
are pretty well complete since 1995. Why should I bother, you won't
buy them. I use the X-no archive flag and you know damn well none of
my posts are in google. That let's you run this bogus lie of yours.
Like everything you write here, it's a wiggle on a half truth on an
unrelated diversionary issue.
Deliver or go down with your BDS.
That was the point of my asking you to prove your statement that I was
silent on Clinton. It's the same logical trap you like to set by
asking me to prove what I posted in the late 90s. You moaned and
screamed like a stuck pig when I asked you to do just what you are
always insisting that I do.
Ummm, I googled my stuff and its there. I googled your stuff and its
not. Sorry about your luck.
WHAT ON EARTH DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BUSH'S NEGLECT OF THE
GPS SYSTEM? THE TIME TO START BUILDING REPLACEMENTS WAS AROUND 2005
OR 2006. BUSH DID NOT. END OF STORY.
Oh, well. Sounds like we are all going to die!!! Good thing I'm on a
survival oriented newsgroup, yes?
Whenever a thread goes badly for you, you pull out one of a couple old
chestnuts. They are never related to the thread, but you use them to
deflect from Bush's sorry record. My posting history is one of them.
Indeed. Come clean or accept that I think you're a liar hell bent on
damning Bush for every facet of earthly failure.
My not having been in the military is another.
Everyone makes choices. I made mine. You made yours. Live with it.
My having voted for
Ron Paul which you claim cost McCain the election is another. Some
day one of those might be relevant but they sure have not been to
date.
With every choice comes consequences.
You claim you are a patriot, but like your criticisms of Clinon on
usenet, there just isn't much evidence of it.
But there is no end to your criticism of our country.
And then you wonder why I call you a troll?
I'm deeply sorry that you feel that way.
Winston lies about what he says he posted. Truth be told, everytime he gets caught in a lie, he claims that he earlier posted some evidence that shows he isn't lying. He can't provide any links or proof though, when challenged to do so. Once in a while he will post some obscure survival tip that he copies from somewhere else, but he's a troll for the most part, angry that he wasn't born a Bush.
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