Re: Will Tim May's final days be in the care of "those people"?
- From: Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:54:16 -0700 (PDT)
On Apr 25, 12:12 pm, Tim May <timc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1209094344_...@xxxxx>, strabo <str...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
terryc wrote:
As has been stated, the real problem were at the management level.
afterall, who is runnngthe place?
Nonsense. Management cannot suddenly implant basic knowledge or even
simple English skills into the minds of illiterate peasants who
(ostensibly) have high school diplomas.
The operators I described were, increasingly, unable to follow simple
instructions. They were high school graduates (we did not hire high
school dropouts for any positions save janitorial and loading dock
work) who were not able to read simple specs and procedures and
actually understand them.
As to language, we have an illiterate italian neighbour who has
successfully worked in this english speaking country with for decades
becuse the factory solved the language problem by only employing
supervisdors who could speak Italian.
Most businesses won't, or can't, hire a special supvervisor to
supervise someone who speaks only Italian, or Xuatacatl or Basque or
whatever. Same reason they won't hire people to translate GUI stuff for
a blind person.
Similar stuations elsewhere. One of
the biggest brand in cat and dog food is largely staffed by ?Korean
speaking people.
I never said non-English-speaking folks have no job prospects. Making
cat food is one of them. Picking crops is another. Working in ethnic
restaurants yet another.
What I said was the the best jobs, in high tech, are being moved to
countries where educational standards have remained high. And, no, in
China most of the factory workers Intel is now hiring do not speak
English. But they can understand detailed instructions written in
Mandarin. They are literate in Mandarin. Americans with high school
degrees are increasingly illiterate even in their native languages.
Studies concerning adapting feral children to human society are
instructive.
Feral children are not subsitence society.
Feral children unemployable in modern industries.
--Tim May
I never said non-English-speaking folks have no job prospects. Making
cat food is one of them. Picking crops is another. Working in ethnic
restaurants yet another.
I might point out Tim that right now billions of non-English-speaking
folks in China are working for the future that you will not have.
TMT
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