Re: Support the Troops - Neocon style

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:19:33 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:29:07 -0400, Li RM <li_rm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:02:42 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:50:10 -0400, Li RM <li_rm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My 1st point was that bin Laden would view a Democratic win in *any*
election as a cause for celebration since the surrender-happy
Democrats would serve his purpose by giving him a substantial moral
and psychological victory in his war against the United States.

So, in your version of a democracy, the wishes of the voters are to
mean absolutely nothing. It's all about which team is on the field?
Right? As long as "our guys" in their snappy Jersey's have control of
the ball, all is right and the coach is a genius? Right?

What the *** are you talking about?

Are you OK or did someone whack you in the head with a shovel this
morning?

Seriously, Winston.

Your question has absolutely nothing to do with my point.

Yes it does. You picture the evil "liberals" in Congress as being a
force in themselves. That is not right. They are the representatives
that the people, the voters, elected.

And because I despise liberals - simply because they were elected and
simply because they exist that means I have to swallow their
horse***, hook line and sinker?

*** them and *** that.



You treat politics like a sport. There is no right or wrong football
team no matter how much we may support the home colors. There IS a
right and a wrong political policy. Lives depend on which prevails.
Mindless rhetoric is a poor tool.

Yeah, lives sure do prevail. And the liberals are ruining this
country. They are a bunch of whiny hypocritical sacks of ***.

I hope that clears up any misunderstanding on how I feel about
liberals.


Feel free to bitch about their policies all you want. But when you
paint them as evil, you are actually painting the simple everyday
citizenry of this country.

Get it: I despise liberals.

They are that fucking bad.


If you want to test politicians by whether they have your idea of the
proper viewpoints, and then using that to disqualify them from office,
you are proposing a dictatorship.

Don't put words in my mouth. Dictatorship is your word, not mine,
pal.

If Hillary or Obama get elected in '08, I'll stand by that decision.
It doesn't mean I have to like it, nor will it ever change my view of
what pieces of dog*** I think they are.

If you don't like my views, too fucking bad.


Whether you know it or not.

I know the difference between holding a political opinion and
supporting a dictatorship - unlike you.


You may make any test you wish to determine YOUR vote. You may not
apply it to all of us. You may not call people evil or "surrender
happy" or any other invective just because you don't like some vague
idea you have of what they think.

I can call it the way *I fucking see it*. And yeah, liberals are a
bunch of cry baby surrender happy pieces of ***.

I hope this missive has been enlightening for you to help clear up any
misperception I have on liberals.


I'll answer it for whatever clarity it can offer to you - and maybe
you can connect it to the point I made up above:

Of course I support our Democracy

Political system gets a small "d"; political party gets a capital.
Same for your use of "R" below. This is not nit picking. It shows
you have a fussy distinction between the two.

(or in reality what we really have -
which is a Republic - there is a marked difference).

We have a democratically elected representative republic. Stop with
the bull *** definition sniveling. If your viewpoint is to be the
test of who holds office - and that is to be taken over and above
majority view - you, sir, are proposing a dictatorship.

That doesn't mean I can't hold an opinion that differs from the
electorate. In fact, although I voted for Bush both in 2000 and 2004,
there are many things I would have done differently then he has. That
doesn't make me someone who "hates" democracy, nor does it make me an
anarchist.

A poor apology after the fruits of his labor are obvious. It's called
rats deserting a sinking ship. So they can infest elsewhere.

Something like the NeoCon thinking has come up over and over
throughout history. It has always been a disaster. You are just
cutting loose of your Bush-anchor so you can argue it again sometime
in the future.

And it's ok for you to hold your views - lumping people into
categories like "NeoCon" (by the way the common spelling is a small
"c" - I'm not nit picking) and it's not OK for me to do the same?

Hypocrite.

I'm not cutting loose of jack ***. And I'm not going to repeat my
point simply because you don't get it.

Man, you're Clueless.

With a capital "C".

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