Re: Dumb assed small town restaurant thing

CanopyCo wrote:

Janet Baraclough wrote:

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Leif Erikson wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.htm

This only proves that snopes can be wrong.

It isn't wrong. Snopes rightly points out, that stuff about TIPS
originating from boxes placed in British pubs is garbage. There have
never been such boxes, and in fact, tipping in British pubs is
exceptionally unusual. I live in Britain, btw.


Notice that they also fell for the statement that insure was the
incorrect spelling when it has been noted here that insure is actually
a correct spelling.

Insure IS the correct spelling of insure. It is not the correct
spelling of ensure, which you have already agreed is a different word.



I agreed that both usages could have been used in the T. I. P.

Tip does not and never did mean "to insure promptness". Even if it did, the usage of "insure" meaning "to buy or issue insurance" clearly does not fit.

The Oxford English Dictionary states that it is
derived from the English thieves' slang word tip,
meaning "to pass from one to another." The notion of
a stock tip or racing tip is from the same slang.

Another possible source for this term is a concept
from Judaism that it is a chiyuv (obligation) for a
seller to "tip the scales" in favor of the customer.
The Torah says, "Nosen lo girumov (Give to him a
tip)." For example, if your customer has asked for
three pounds of onions, you should measure out the
three pounds plus one extra onion, tipping the scale
in his favor [2].

An urban legend states that the word "tip" is an
acronym for terms such as "to insure prompt
service", "to insure proper service", "to improve
performance", and "to insure promptness". However,
this etymology contradicts the Oxford English
Dictionary [3] and is probably an example of a
backronym or apronym.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip


Note, you pig-headed idiot, that the word represented by the 'p' isn't even constant in the various versions of the myth. You are sooooooo stupid.



It could have been insurance, and it could have been the proper pre
70's usage of insure to mean ensure.

No dictionary you have looked at (and misunderstood) said that such usage was "proper". Stop lying.


Did you miss the earlier introduction of the fact that in the 70's
websters considered insure to be acceptable in usage for ensure?

No, liar, they didn't.


We also have the fact that the definition of words change threw time.
Look at the word gay.
It's origin changed when the meaning changed.

No, its origin did not change. The origin of the word gay is exactly
the same origin as it always was. Do you even know the meaning of the
word origin?



My meaning and yours may be different.

Your "meaning" of origin is garbage.


Then we come to the fact that the meaning of a word is entirely
determined by its common usage,

Rubbish. Although words may acquire additional meanings over time,
educated people interpret them according to what is appropriate in the
context. When Jane Austen wrote about a gay ball, only a moron would
interpret that as " homosexual testicle".


Exactly.

YOU, you moron, *might* interpret it as "homosexual testicle".


Tip still has the original meaning (pass a trivial gift/favour) it
always did hundreds of years ago , long before acronyms were invented.

thus supporting the present meaning of
tip as an acronym meaning to insure promptness and not the passing
between thieves, simply because that is the common belief.

Your acronym theory is not a common belief,


According to Snopes it actually is believed by many, so apparently it
is common.

It also is commonly believed by many American red-state crackers, and even some blue-staters, that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the 9/11 attacks. That belief is false, too.

You can present *NO* credible evidence to support your belief for the origin of "tip". It's just an urban legend that you, because of your credulity and bad education and semi-literacy, accept.


as this thread makes
clear. But even if it was, "common belief" is often just wrong. Such as,
past "common beliefs" that the earth is flat, cigarettes are good for
you, and the tooth fairy .

No comment, eh, cracker?
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