Re: HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT! (tell us the truth that is)



On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:09:11 +0000, Larry Caldwell wrote:

In article <pan.2006.03.31.14.06.21.628061@xxxxxxxx>, nntpmail@xxxxxxxx
(Ann) says...
Caught a bit of a discussion on tv this morning and the remark "As long
as they behave like citizens ..." was made. Seems to me that a number
of people expect Hispanics to behave better than citizens do. Puerto
Ricans have done seasonal and year-round work in the Mid-Atlantic state
for 50+ years. Sure, there are some cultural differences that can lead
to conflicts. And, yes, there are Hispanic criminals. But like black
crime, the majority is against members of the same race/ethnicity. As
for drugs, they're "our" problem. If citizens stopped buying them,
most of the problem would go away.

You may not be aware of it, but Puerto Ricans ARE American citizens.

No kidding! Yes, I was aware of that. Since your main objection to the
other Hispanics is their illegal status, you'd be fine with them if all
Mexicans were granted US citizenship (too)?

Pretty much by definition, they are behaving like citizens, and resent
being lumped in your "Hispanic" basket with illegal Mexicans. In fact,
a group that is very vocal in its opposition to illegal immigration is
the legal immigrants of Mexican background, who don't care to be
associated with the scum that are oozing north across the border.

So what is the basis for the fear of Hispanics? They speak a different
language so many citizens don't know what they're saying about "us".
The majority are industrious so eventually they'll end up with
citizens' jobs?

Certainly the lot of poor Americans has deteriorated markedly because of
illegal immigration.

The solution to that - if there is a significant effect - is to clamp down
on some high profile employers of illegals; toss some CEOs in jail for a
few months. See how many citizens enjoy picking crops.

There are only so many unskilled jobs and low rent housing units
available. However, Americans are not known for being concerned with
the plight of poor people. On the top end, the concern is the economic
impact on Texas and California. Those states together do a lot to drive
the US economic engine, and they are showing the strain. New Mexico and
Arizona are in worse shape, but there's little money there, so nobody
cares.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/30/ivins.immigration/
http://www.trueblueliberal.com/2006/03/31/the-road-to-dubai/#more-5118

If things don't get any worse than they are now, it won't be so bad, but
there is no sign that anything is getting better. Illegal immigration
continues to accelerate. 20 years from now, we will be looking at a
population of 50 million illegals, almost 20% of the current US
population. What are we supposed to do with them?

From the gold rush days:
"...Most migrants traveling to California were frontier farmers who were
escaping the confining atmosphere of the east or middle west. Marino
Vallejo casually remarked that many Yankees were hostile to Spanish
speaking Californians, and he believed this showed the low level of
education among Americans. Since Vallejo was fluent in Latin and spoke
several languages, he found it amusing that the Californios and Mexicans
were often stereotyped as less than civilized. Vallejo confided to a
friend that deteriorating relations between Americans and Spanish-speaking
Californians would continue to plague California."



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