Re: Historic gasoline prices, 1965-1978


"Dave Hinz" <DaveHinz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3n0tr7F18soo4U3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:05:05 -0800, Christina Peterson
<tinapetrsn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > The errors in terminology are mine or those of others. Walter said
> > something about changeable fuel to oxygen ratio.
>
> That in itself as nonsense, as I stated earlier. For each gram of
> gasoline, you need 14.7 grams of oxygen to burn it. Period. That's how
> much oxidizable material (fuel) you need to mix with that much oxygen,
> in order to burn.
>
> Emissions will show unburned hydrocarbons (too rich - not enough
> oxygen), or increased oxides of nitrogen (too lean - not enough fuel) if
> you miss the 14.7:1 ratio. Performance and efficiency fall of
> drastically on either side of 14.7:1.
>
> Read that again until you understand it. If Walter's claims of adding
> oxygen to the engine are central to the design, this is central to
> explaining how it won't work. Let's not even get _into_ the question of
> "how do you get the oxygen for the engine" just yet.
>
> > Someone else called that
> > variable compression ratio carburetor, and I repeated that. Again it
was
> > the people around him who called this a 2 cycle 4 stroke engine. You're
> > right, Doug, I don't know the difference between a stroke and a cycle.
Are
> > they *exactly* the same thing?
>
> They are exactly the same thing. By definition.
>
> > Walter is anything but a con man. He is a very simple and humble man.
I am
> > more concerned that he is being compromised. So far the money is going
to
> > lawyers, not into Walter's pocket or to his living well. "Follow the
money
> > to find the motivation" does not work here. Pride, in either you or
him,
> > might be a factor, as far as wanting to be believed, but not money.
>
> Appearances can be deceiving. He could very well be a well-intentioned
> but wrong inventor (history is littered with them), but it's at least as
> likely that he's trying to scam people with the act. It has all the
> signs - conspiracy to hide the technology is a HUGE RED FLAG, for
> instance.
>
> > Now, bear with me bearing with you. OK? A carburetor combines air and
> > fuel. So is any devise that combines them a carburetor? He spoke of
reed
> > valves and also port holes. I know the placement of these holes or
valves
> > are different than in a standard engine, and also, I think, they type.
And
> > those are within the "cylinder" and effected as by a sleeve. So if the
air
> > to fuel ratio is automatically adjusted there, would that not be both
> > variable carburetor and also compression?
>
> For someone who claimed earlier to know nothing about the technology,
> it seems that you were "playing dumb".
>
> > I think that's how it works, but
> > I'm not sure. I think better with my hands than with my head, and I
have
> > never touched this aspect of the engine, so what I was told didn't hold.
> >
> > Now about the 2 cycle 4 stroke. This has a cylinder accommodating two
> > compression chambers with opposing fixed pistons. I believe, this gives
two
> > explosions for 4 strokes.
> >
> > Do these things makes my words make more sense?
> >
> > We're heading down to Valdez in the next few days to talk to him, so
I'll
> > try to ask your questions.
>
> Ask him about the waste heat in the engine. If he evades the question,
> DON'T GIVE HIM ANY MORE MONEY. Theory and all that doesn't matter - if
> it's twice as efficient, it'll produce half as much waste heat,
> regardless of the mechanisms.
>

I haven't given him money in years.

I'm not "playing dumb", but also am not dumb. I don't know about engines,
and probably know even less about other engines than this one. This one is
simpler and has fewer parts and I've held it in my hands. I'm referring to
the prime mover, the engine, not all the other bits that do the all motor
functions. And I understand a little physics. Some terms, like "reed
valve", I'm repeating but don't really understand (at this time).

Is there only one ideal air/fuel ratio? I remember that in flying you
manipulate the controls as you fly to change the mix. Some of that would be
because of the change in air density because of altitude or barometric
pressure, of course.

Don't tell me "ask about waste heat in the engine". Give me a better
question about waste heat to ask.

But don't tell me that hiding technology is a huge red flag. That's silly.
All the corporations with lots of power and money feel a need to hide
technology until it can be published *and presented for market*. How much
more true for someone without the legal war chest to fight in court.

We're driving to Valdez tomorrow, 800 miles. What would you like me to ask
Walter?

Tina


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