Re: Historic gasoline prices, 1965-1978

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:05:05 -0800, Christina Peterson <tinapetrsn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> The errors in terminology are mine or those of others. Walter said
> something about changeable fuel to oxygen ratio.

That in itself as nonsense, as I stated earlier. For each gram of
gasoline, you need 14.7 grams of oxygen to burn it. Period. That's how
much oxidizable material (fuel) you need to mix with that much oxygen,
in order to burn.

Emissions will show unburned hydrocarbons (too rich - not enough
oxygen), or increased oxides of nitrogen (too lean - not enough fuel) if
you miss the 14.7:1 ratio. Performance and efficiency fall of
drastically on either side of 14.7:1.

Read that again until you understand it. If Walter's claims of adding
oxygen to the engine are central to the design, this is central to
explaining how it won't work. Let's not even get _into_ the question of
"how do you get the oxygen for the engine" just yet.

> Someone else called that
> variable compression ratio carburetor, and I repeated that. Again it was
> the people around him who called this a 2 cycle 4 stroke engine. You're
> right, Doug, I don't know the difference between a stroke and a cycle. Are
> they *exactly* the same thing?

They are exactly the same thing. By definition.

> Walter is anything but a con man. He is a very simple and humble man. I am
> more concerned that he is being compromised. So far the money is going to
> lawyers, not into Walter's pocket or to his living well. "Follow the money
> to find the motivation" does not work here. Pride, in either you or him,
> might be a factor, as far as wanting to be believed, but not money.

Appearances can be deceiving. He could very well be a well-intentioned
but wrong inventor (history is littered with them), but it's at least as
likely that he's trying to scam people with the act. It has all the
signs - conspiracy to hide the technology is a HUGE RED FLAG, for
instance.

> Now, bear with me bearing with you. OK? A carburetor combines air and
> fuel. So is any devise that combines them a carburetor? He spoke of reed
> valves and also port holes. I know the placement of these holes or valves
> are different than in a standard engine, and also, I think, they type. And
> those are within the "cylinder" and effected as by a sleeve. So if the air
> to fuel ratio is automatically adjusted there, would that not be both
> variable carburetor and also compression?

For someone who claimed earlier to know nothing about the technology,
it seems that you were "playing dumb".

> I think that's how it works, but
> I'm not sure. I think better with my hands than with my head, and I have
> never touched this aspect of the engine, so what I was told didn't hold.
>
> Now about the 2 cycle 4 stroke. This has a cylinder accommodating two
> compression chambers with opposing fixed pistons. I believe, this gives two
> explosions for 4 strokes.
>
> Do these things makes my words make more sense?
>
> We're heading down to Valdez in the next few days to talk to him, so I'll
> try to ask your questions.

Ask him about the waste heat in the engine. If he evades the question,
DON'T GIVE HIM ANY MORE MONEY. Theory and all that doesn't matter - if
it's twice as efficient, it'll produce half as much waste heat,
regardless of the mechanisms.

.

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