Re: According to Obama programmers, engineers and radiologists are "low-skill labor"
- From: Dave Head <rally2xs@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:13:20 GMT
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:17:43 -0700, "Ernie Jurick"
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Programmers, engineers and radiologists are highly skilled. If we had more
Americans graduating in those fields companies wouldn't have to outsource or
import. The jobs Obama is talking about are unskilled, labor-intensive
factory jobs which no longer exist in the US.
-- Ernie
Again, you don't pay attention.
There _were_ more than enough of these people in the late 90's and early
2000's. But, they wanted to be _paid_ what it was worth, buy right of the
expense and effort of the education it took to do those things, and...
the big businesses involved found it possible, with the complicity of a
government that never attempted to enforce the law requiring the H1B visa
holders to be paid the prevailing wage, to bring in foreign help that would,
comparitively, work for peanuts.
And, of course, with the low cost of living in places like Bangalore, India,
they could get the work done, admittedly with varying quality, for a third to a
half what an American programmer would require.
But, now that the practice has gone on as long as it has, there really _is_ a
shortage of American Computer Science graduates because... they are a lot
smarter than to choose a career that now pays a fraction of what it used to,
and also a fraction of what they could earn as a doctor, lawyer, and even some
technical jobs.
So, actually, the American programming market _has_ been gutted, and it will
not likely come back. The need for the foreign workers will probably continue
to increase in all the jobs that don't have "Secret" and "NOFORN" stamped on
them. There's not enough of 'em like that to justify a going for a degree,
tho.
Sooo... welcome to the "global economy." There will be a lot more changes
coming, and they are all going to be bad for the middle class. Fortunately,
I'll be dead before this plays out, but I'm expecting that in the end, there
will be those living the lives of people you can see in the movie "Slumdog
Millionaire", which will be almost everybody, and the rest of everyone else,
who will live lavishly, although that will likely be 1 - 2 percent of the
population.
Our form of govenment was set up to prevent such nonsense, but now we have
judges that think the Constitution means simply what they wish it to mean, and
that they have the wisdom to out-think the founding fathers and, unless the
populace is willing to do something about it, which can't be accomplished with
simply elections alone, the grinding poverty for the vast majority lies ahead.
At least that is what I believe.
.
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