Re: The Sheeplistic Support Oill Driilling Off Florida

"Ernie Jurick" <invalidexample@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:w-udnfdTK9nOXf_VnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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"Dave Head" <rally2xs@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ce942077-9673-4700-bbed-b276b9c67a46@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Jun 25, 8:38 am, trudogg <independ...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:05:08 GMT, Dave Head <rally...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>...it's almost over. These prices are the last gasping grasp of the
>>oil companies. They know what is coming.

>These oil prices are permanent - they are not going down, its a >worldwide
>problem. They'll go up faster if a Democrat gets elected and starts >taxing
>everything in sight, that's all.

...never say never. If they don't start diversifying their investments
into alternative fuels...their days are numbered. Bank on it.

What alternative fuels? We already know that alcohol is a dead end -
we can't grow enough corn to make it work for us.

We can import all we need from Brazil, but Dumbo refuses to even talk about removing the punitive 55¢/gal tariff on Brazilian ethanol. We can import it for one-third of the cost we can make it on our own, even *before* the subsidies were tacked on.
-- Ernie




Brazil does NOT export much ethanol due to domestic demand in their flex fuel vehicles.

From the article you referenced: "60 percent of Brazil's ethanol exports this year were destined for the United States." Brazil also supplies the entire Caribbean basin with as much ethanol as they want for their own uses. And the EU takes half a billion gallons every year. All that in addition to supplying all its own needs. It's part of the reason Brazil is running a budget surplus this year.

Doesn't mean they can't gear up, over the next ten to
fifteen years, but right now....in the great scheme of things, they're not much of a player...

See above.

http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/40012/story.htm

I'm sorry, I should have phrased that better, since the "can" is ambiguous: "Brazil has the capacity to supply all we need." As the article states, they were ready to do it until Dumbo refused to lift the tariff at the behest of corn states who wanted the ethanol subsidy. Ironically, Brazilian ethanol is no longer subsidized, but American ethanol is.

Brazil has gotten around the tariff by exporting hydrated ethanol to other Caribbean countries where they reprocess it into anhydrous ethanol and ship it to the US. As for not being a major player, in addition to sending ethanol for transshipment, We should play nice with Brazil, because their Tupa oil find may replace Saudi Arabia as our main supplier when it starts flowing.
-- Ernie


From the same article.....

"But Brazil exports only a small portion of ethanol output due to booming domestic demand from drivers of flex fuel motorists. Satisfying a surge in export demand could strain local supplies."

As I said, doesn't mean they can't gear up, as the entire thrust of the article is Bush's idea to replace 20% of the US gasoline consumption within 20 years.


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