Re: Why I'm Against Impeachment


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Barbara Lake wrote:
Yes. I want to see the criminals in Washington brought to book. I
would dearly love to see Bush, Cheney, et al behind bars. I do NOT
want to see Congress initiate impeachment proceedings against either
of these men at this time. One, even if initiated, the Senate does
not have the 2/3 needed to impeach, so it would wind up being an
exercise in futility. Secondly, it would only serve as a distraction
from upcoming elections upon which so many of us are pinning our hopes
for multi-level change in Washington.

What I am hoping for is that charges are brought against these men
once they are out of office for their crimes against humanity. And, I
want those charges brought by an international tribunal separate and
apart from U.S. jurisdiction.

Barbara



I'm absolutely against the use of an international tribunal being used
and usurping the US court system. An international tribunal does not
recognize the Constitutional rights of a US citizen. I know you hate
both Bush and Cheney but to deprive a citizen of Constitutional civil
rights goes much too far. I 'm surprised that you, a champion of
Constitutional rights would suggest such a thing. Hate both Bush and
Cheney, if such hatred brings you pleasure but don't become blinded by
your hatred and don't ask to establish a precedent that will usurp the
US Court system and render the Constitution useless, whenever an
international tribunal wants to do so.

You have forgotten that Bush and Cheney committed offenses outside the
terroritory and jurisdiction of the United States. You are essentially
using a constitutionality argument to support requiring the US to harbor
war criminals from prosecution by foreign victim states.

If the constitution doesn't affect the rights of prisoners in
Guantanamo, it certainly doesn't affect the rights of foreign nationals
elsewhere.


Nah.

Some of the European States are considering surrendering sovereignty to
Brussels, but no one else is, and many of them aren't too wild about the
idea.

I know about that and it pisses me off. Next thing will be to have the UN
take over governing the US.

Maybe by 2300.


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