Re: "Men just want women. It's really basic. Women think they have to get all dressed up and get implants to attract us. They don't


"Derf" <derf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 22:00:41 -0800, "Barbara Lake" <bglake@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Really? So it is a choice between the doctor, the woman, and the man?
Who knew?

Sarcasm? What a surprise. I did not say this was always the case, but it
frequently is. If it were left to my ex husband, every one of my
pregnancies would have been aborted.

But it wasn't left to your husband, was it?

And, it is not the man's body.

It is precisely as much the man's body as the woman's body. 50/50
gene split, right down the middle.

Which body are we speaking about?

The one which dies is the one I'm talking about.

The woman is the one carrying the fetus.
Or are we speaking about a man who does not use protection and impregnates
a
woman?

Ah, so it is the *man's* responsibility to avoid pregnancy? There is
no mutual responsibility? How very... quaint.

Simply because his plumbing works, do you truly believe he has
rights in the matter?

He's damn sure going to pay if the woman chooses to bear the child, so
yes, I truly believe the father has rights in the matter.

My body, my choice, our responsibility -- remember?

The largest proportion of women having abortions are
unmarried, and husbands are the only ones I would grant having rights in
the
matter.

Fatherhood is not contingent upon marriage. Again, the father pays,
married or not, so you are being in consistent to demand
responsibility yet deny rights.

...nor will
he feel any pain during the abortion procedure. If, in fact, he opposed
the
abortion, the most he can claim is emotional pain.

Right. If someone shoots you child dead, the most you can claim is
emotional pain. It really isn't as if you had to suffer much, is it?

You're being specious again.

No, I'm pointing out that your flip dismissal of the emotional aspects
of fatherhood is outdated and quite ignorant.

At the time of most abortions (the first
trimester), the growth inside a woman's uterus is less than an inch of
tissue. It has the potential of becoming a baby, but it sure isn't there
yet.

It has brainwaves at 40 days, toots.

This is incorrect. Please go to:
http://eileen.250x.com/Main/Einstein/Brain_Waves.htm
Read the entire article and you will find out where and how this incorrect
information (by constant repetition) became so generally believed by so
many.

Barbara


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