Re: Iran's Nuclear Program




"Rob Redmond" <robredmond@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:57:11 -0800, "Barbara Lake" <bglake@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Our military reserves are fine. We have not wasted 3 years - unless we
>>> quit now. The billions of dollars are not wasted either, if they
>>> result in a democratic foothold in the keystone state of the middle
>>> east. Just because you don't like the reasons for the war is no reason
>>> to pray for everyone to die in the aftermath of complete failure.
>>>
>>> -24FC
>>
>>Please show me one place where I said ... or even intimated ... that I was
>>praying "for everyone to die in the aftermath of complete failure."
>
> Thank you for conceding to everything else I corrected you on.
>
> When you write that we have wasted our time, that our military is in a
> shambles, and that it is all for nothing and we may as well leave, you
> basically cave in to the notion that an anti-American, nuclear middle
> east is inevitable, and that their suicidal culture cannot be stopped
> from ultimately engaging in activities that will destroy us all.
>
> We have no choice but to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan, forever if need
> be, to see it through and prevent those nations from becoming
> launching pads for terrorism.
>
> Defeatist wishful thinking is pointless and absurd. It is what caused
> us to abandon our committment to Vietnam and then wallow around for
> decades mumbling to ourselves about how we "lost", when in reality, we
> quit.
>
> http://www.24fightingchickens.com/2005/12/11/we-have-not-lost-this-war-yet/
>
> You might not like the decision to go there, but the decision to stay
> is no decision at all. We are stuck - to leave would result in the
> destruction of those countries, the deaths of more than anyone can
> count, the emergence of new terror supporting states, the ruining of
> America's reputation in the world beyond any level it has been ruined
> to date, and a demoralization of the people living here which would
> probably result in a catastrophic economic slow-down.
>
> I think it is for the best if we all hope everything works out, and we
> avoid hyperbole about military reserves being damaged or time being
> wasted.
>
> I have a lot of buddies over there right now bleeding their hearts out
> to save Iraq from itself.
>
> They are not wasting their time.

I concede nothing, however, your either/or rationale and willingness to
pigeonhole everyone who isn't for the war as against the people in it I find
obscenely ridiculous. We wasted three years in Iraq that would have been
better spent going after al qaeda ... the job not finished. Had we done
that, we would not have spent multibillions of dollars, thousands of
American and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives. Don't anticipate any
further responses from me to any of your posts.

Barbara


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