Re: A Tax Story

Kent Wills <compuelf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:34:07 -0500, deadrat <misclegalmod@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Kent Wills <compuelf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2012 11:41:16 -0500, deadrat <misclegalmod@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Kent Wills <compuelf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:00:05 -0500, deadrat <misclegalmod@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Kent Wills <compuelf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 06 May 2012 12:40:01 -0500, deadrat <misclegalmod@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Kent Wills <compuelf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 5 May 2012 15:45:35 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

[...]

They worked and saved and
invested and worked some more until they became rich. And many
continued to work and grow wealthier as time passed by, because
they loved making money rather than just spending it. (A concept
that liberals can't understand)

Yeah, keep telling yourself that all you have to do is work and
save. Then you can blame "liberals" when it doesn't quite work out
that way for you.

You seem to be jealous of those who have become wealthy and
their
children. I do hope I'm misreading your apparent envy.

He seems to think I am a teenager like he is. I am 76.

I don't know Deadrat's age, but I get the impression he's closer
to your age than a teenager's.

I already worked and
saved for 40 years, retired at 61, and am living comfortably off of my
investments. It has already, "worked for me". He is the one who will
depend
on the government for his retirement, and will end up living in a
trailer
court outside Tulsa, OK or some similar place, and bitch about the
"rich"
people who live up in the hills after they, "stole from the poor" all
of
their lives.

Sadly, there are people like that.

Name one in public life.


Who mentioned public life?

There's no other way to measure your claims.

I suppose you can make the argument that they are people, and
that the do appear in public. Unless they're shut-ins.

How can anyone tell anything about
people you supposedly know? Indeed, how can you even know much about
people
you
know? Polls show that self-described liberals make up 20% of the
respondents.
That's large enough for these folks to have people they support in public
life,
and we can evaluate the positions of those people.


While the people being discussed will support one or more who are
in public life, this has nothing to do with the people themselves.

It's interesting how you want to distract from the points being
raised.

It's interesting that you can find no evidence for your claims. Sadly,
there
are people who live up in the hills who complain all the time about the
rich.
What hills are those?


When did I mention hills?
If you have an issue with Bill's claim, take it up with Bill.

It's a statement of Bill's you couldn't wait to endorse.


Lying isn't helping you.

Yeah, yeah. You're the only honest person on usenet.


Thanks, but I'm certain you're wrong.

If I have to mark the sardonic passages I will, Mr. I'm-the-Most-Honest-Poster-
on-Usenet.

You are the one who mentioned people in public life.

I'll type more slowly so you'll be able to follow. Your personal anecdotes,
as
touching and fascinating as they are, aren't evidence for your argument. Or
at
least, not good evidence. I can't check your stories.


Bill mentioned poor people (though he didn't call them poor) who
complain about how others stole from them. You are the one who made
it about people in public life.
And I gave no examples of the people Bill referenced.
Try honesty, DR.

I'll try again. Bill has a thesis. Likely he's just making things up. To know
one way or the other, I'll have to examine the evidence. I can't examine his
anecdotes about fictional people. With all these alleged whining poor people,
surely there are some who've made the news, surely there enough of them to have
some public political figures who cater to them.

Got it, yet? Sure you do. You got it the first time around, didn't you, Mr.
I'm-the-Most-Honest-Poster-on-Usenet?

<snip/>

Well, at least you accept the unevidenced sadly.

If you have anything that would support a claim that no poor
people bitch and claim the wealthy stole from them, even anecdotal,
offer it.

Here's the way it works, Sparky. I don't have to provide evidence to refute
your claims. It's you who has to provide the evidence in support of them.

So you want me to refute your apparent claim that no poor do so.
Uh huh...

Ah, my *apprarent* claim. Is that what it appears to you, Skippy?

Yes. I wouldn't have written it if it had not.

I guess not since you're Mr. I'm-the-Most-Honest-Poster-on-Usenet. And I guess
that's why you feel you don't have to provide verifiable evidence for your
claims. You being so honest and all.

(That was meant to be sardonic, by the way.)

Nope. I've
merely challenged you to support *your* claim.

You did so AFTER I challenged you.


Well, Skippy, the order of challenge doesn't change the burden. Your claim,
your burden.

So still no verifiable evidence, eh? Well, that's OK. I understand. People
like you live in the world of their own opinion. You treat any challenge to
your world view as a demand for evidence that the sky is blue. It's all just so
self evident. <sarcasm>Poor people whine, and Carter was the worst.<sarcasm/>

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