Re: Copyright laws and downloading music.

richard <member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:53:17 -0800, "McGyver" <Greyprof@xxxxxxx>
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"jake" <peppy54@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Supposing I got busted for downloading music via Lime Wire or a
similar service. Supposing also when the feds served their search
warrant they discovered that every for piece of music I downloaded,
I owned the original vinyl recording for. Would I be guilty of
anything?

Yes, you would be guilty of copyright infringement if:
(a) the copyright has not expired,
(b) the copyright has not been transferred to the public domain,
(c) the owner of the copyright has not licensed it for download, and
(d) you do not pay the appropriate copyright fee to the appropriate
agency.

And what exactly is this fee and to whom is it paid and how?

The amount of the fee, how it is paid, and to whom is a matter determined
by the holders of the copyright. Google "ASCAP + radio" to find out how
radio stations get to play copyrighted music over the air.

With the advent of Windows XP and that version of windows media
player, we got hit with a thing known as "Digital Rights Management".
I had attempted to play many things I had well before DRM and wmp said
I could not because I had no license. How do they know I even needed a
license?
If I created something and used the wma format, I need a license to
hear it? Excuse me?

You need a license to for DRM protected stuff.

Then when you tried to obtain the license from their supplied website,
the website was not available.

Sucks to be you, doesn't it?

Why can I legally download a file from itunes? But not from napster?
Because I pay itunes a few bucks for the privilege.

Now you're getting it!

Isn't itunes screwing the artist?

Maybe. None of your business, though.

You go to a store and want to buy the CD which costs $20.
At itunes I can get the same album, and more for $5.
So itunes is screwing the artist of proper royalties.

Again, none of your business. The copyright owner agreed to the deal.
No one has to ask you for permission.

I have thousands of oldies from the 60's. Many of which you can't even
find in a store no how no way. How am I to know which ones are
protected by a copyright and which ones aren't?

This can be difficult, but actually reading the law might tell you. Your
method of just making *** up won't help.

Why should I pay for music twice?

Because you bought a record once and downloaded a file once. That's
twice. Simple.

Same thing as if he had recorded the file himself directly off the
vinyl. Just a different media.


In all their high and
mighty crusade against music piracy have they allowed for people who
bought this music 30 years ago and now want to put it to disc?

Nope. They have not made allowances for that.

Actually they have. They are only going after KNOWN copyrighted
material. What you already own is not a concern of theirs.

For instance, I have a copy of the "Beatles:Revolver". Now I want to
put it on CD. I can legally do that.

What's the status of the copyright?

As you know, today it is only to easy for people to rip a CD and
instantly transfer it to a 1,000 others free of charge. This is what
the lawsuits are all about.

Perhaps what they should do is sue the "seeders". The uploaders.
Find out who first made it available and go after them.

Yeah, but that's hard.

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