Re: John McCain Calls John McCain a Big Liar
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Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
"I'm not for, quote, privatizing
ISecurity. I
never
have
been.
I
never will be."
-John McCain 6/13/2008
"As part of Social Security reform,
comprise alinesbelieve
that
private
savings
accounts are a part of it- along the
that3/3/2008]
President
Bush
proposed."
-John McCain [Wall Street Journal,
Having private savings accounts
Jonezpartsecurity.
of
social
security
is
not the same as privatizing social
I'm doin' my best here, but don't give
toany
more
quotes.
Privatizing social security is the plan
Todayassign
to
citizens
sums
of
money
that they can manage. These are called
"private
accounts,"
even
though
they would be subject to rules different
from
those
that
apply
to
your
savings account at the corner bank.
wantSocial
Security
operates
like
an
insurance system.
True, but many who favor "privatizing" it
toprivate
allow
people
to
put
their entire retirement savings into
accounts.saved
Allowing
a
small
portion to be individually invested and
in
a
private
account
is
far different from this.
I don't see the word "small" in anything
McCain
said.
If
it's
not
a
significant amount, why bother?
Because small is not necessarily
insignificant,
simpleton.
Before you call anyone a simpleton, maybe you
should
tell
us
where
you see the word "small" in what McCain said.
Well, since you put "small" in quotes, you're
obviously
going
to
be
so
literal-minded as to expect to see a quote with
that
specific
word
in
it, which, obviously, you know does not appear in
any
of
the
quotes
above.
But he said private savings accounts are a "part"
of
social
security
reform. And a part of something is less than the
whole
of
it
And you got "small" from that how, again?
Shall we agree that McCain supports "partial"
privatization
of
Social
Security?
I have no idea what you'd agree to. My instinct is
that
you'll
disagree
with whatever I say, as a knee-jerk reaction, since
you
always
do.
Do you agree that McCain supports partial
privatization
of
Social
Security?
It appears that way based on his March 3 quote.
I agree.
So?
So see the subject line for this thread.
I did. John McCain has never called himself a liar, that I'm
aware
of
or that anyone has posted.
Here, I'll make it easy for you:
Subject: Re: John McCain Calls John McCain a Big Liar
?Without privatization, I don?t see how you can possibly,
over
time,
make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social
Security
benefits.?
John McCain on November 18, 2004 on C-SPAN's Road To The
White
House.
"I'm not for, quote, privatizing Social Security. I never
have
been.
I never will be."
John McCain 6/13/2008
Gee, thanks. It's not like this same information appears
above
all
of
your drivel, or anything like that.
Well, the C-SPAN quote is new. Beyond that, you seem a little
slow,
and
repetition sometimes helps with slow people.
Do you really think you contributed anything to this thread?
Seriously?
Sure. I got you to admit that McCain supports at least partial
privatization
of Social Security, and is now lying about it.
Actually, my very first post in this thread said that he was in
favor
of
having part of people's social security accounts in private savings
accounts.
So although you apprently think you did contribute to this thread,
you
didn't.
Once again Larry manifests the pomposity that has made him a
misc.legal
laughingstock.
Bottom line: McCain is lying about his position on privatizing
Social
Security.
Sure, if you're one of the idiots who evaluates a candidate's position
on an important, complex issue like social security based on
five-second
sound bites instead of truly examining the issue.
No, I'm one of those "idiots" who takes offense when a candidate says
one
thing
to one audience and another thing to another audience. And then lies
about
what
he has said in the past.
Good for you. You're still dumber than a bucket of dirt.
Was that supposed to be a demonstration of your superior intellect?
No, but my superior intellect has been demonstrated for you on countless
other occasions.
If so, it was as big a failure as your previous efforts.
But your implied support of elitist politicians lying to the electorate
'for their own good' is duly noted.
I've never said what politician I support.
Nobody said you did, at least not in this thread. I'd be the first
to concede that just because you're comfortable with McCain lying
about his position on an important issue doesn't mean you're
contributing to his campaign or plan to vote for him in the general
election.
Just because you can't understand his two statements doesn't mean he's
lying.
What would you call it, Larry?
?Without privatization, I don?t see how you can possibly, over time,
make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security
benefits."
-John McCain 11/18/2004
"As part of Social Security reform, I believe that private savings
accounts are a part of it - along the lines that President Bush
proposed."
-John McCain [Wall Street Journal, 3/3/2008]
"I'm not for, quote, privatizing Social Security. I
never have been. I never will be.
-John McCain 6/13/2008
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