Re: FBI Raids Liberty Dollar - Confiscates All Ron Paul Dollar


"richard" <spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:52:25 -0600, GeekBoy wrote:

"richard" <spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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http://www.law.emory.edu/law-library/research/ready-reference/us-federal-law-and-documents/historical-documents-constitution-of-the-united-states/article-i-the-legislative-branch.html#c7656

Now where does the constitution give authority to private persons to
coin
money in any form?

By that response I take it you have never taken a cCvics or Political
Science class.

The US Consitution was setup to form the government.
The only place in it now that controls a private person is in the 13th
Amendment that bans slavery.

Granted, businesses such as "Franklin Mint" do coin "money" but these
are
all collector items and not legal tender. Therefor they are legal.

Will somebody please slap this *** for brains geekboy?
"YOU" are a resident of a state, which is part of the whole body of the
country. Therefor you are obligated to follow the laws on all levels.

RESIDENT, international law. A minister, according to diplomatic language,
of a third order, less in dignity than an ambassador, or an envoy. This term
formerly related only to the continuance of the minister's stay, but now it
is confined to ministers of this class.
2. The resident does not represent the prince's person in his dignity,
but only his affairs. His representation is in reality of the same nature as
that of the envoy; hence he is often termed, as well as the envoy, a
minister of the second order, thus distinguishing only two classes of public
ministers, the former consisting of ambassadors who are invested with the
representative character in preeminence, the latter comprising all other
ministers, who do not possess that exalted character. This is the most
necessary distinction, and indeed the only essential one. Vattel liv. 4, c.
6, 73.

RESIDENT, persons. A person coming into a place with intention to establish
his domicil or permanent residence, and who in consequence actually remains
there. Time is not so essential as the intent, executed by making or
beginning an actual establishment, though it be abandoned in a longer, or
shorter period. See 6 Hall's Law Journ. 68; 3 Hagg. Eccl. R. 373; 20 John.
211 2 Pet. Ad. R. 450; 2 Scamm. R. 377.

The Supreme Court has declared that there are three definitions
of the term United States:

1. The 'term United States' may be used in any one of several
senses. It may be merely the name of a sovereign occupying
the position analogous to that of other sovereigns in the
family of nations.

2. It may designate the territory over which the sovereignty of
the United States extends, or

3. It may be the collective name of the States which are united
by and under the Constitution.


1. What is a state?
State. A people permanently occupying a fixed
territory bound together by common-law habits and custom
into one body politic exerciing, through the medium of an
organized government, independent sovereignty and control
over all persons and things within its boundaries, capable
of making war and peace and of entering into international
relations with other communities of the globe. United
States v. Kusche, D.C. Cal., 56 F. Supp.201 207, 208.
The organization of social life which exercises sovereign
power in behalf of the people. Delany v. Moralitis,
C.C.A.Md.,136 F. 2d 129, 130.

Can you print your own driver's license, license plates? Your own
passport?
According to you, you have authority to do as you damn well please. So why
don't you grow pot and sell it? Then you can try out your theory on the
judge and you'll be screaming from behind the bars.

The issue is deeper by far than you might imagine!

As far as the driver's license is concerned. Did you know that a driver is
a
"commercial operator"? The government has the authority to regulate
commerce, but not the personal travel of individuals who are U.S. national
permanately domiciled inhabitants of the various States of the Union?

Yet they do, I have a "driver's license" but I did not waive my rights to
get it.
I registered my automobile, but I did not ceed it to the State as their
property.

Go ahead dude. Print your own money. I'll send you a saw when you get
busted.

Will an I.O.U. be fine by you? I assure you I will not get busted. It is
an
contract and it may or may not be as defective as a Federal Reserve Note.
Which is invalid as a promissory note.

If you don't know what the law is how will you know if it's broken by the
agents responsible for enforcing the law?

"PROMISSORY NOTE, contracts. A written promise to pay a certain sum
of money, at a future time, unconditionally. 7 Watts & S. 264; 2 Humph.
R. 143; 10 Wend. 675; Minor, R. 263; 7 Misso. 42; 2 Cowen, 536; 6 N.
H. Rep. 364; 7 Vern. 22. A promissory note differs from a mere
acknowledgment of debt, without any promise to pay, as when the debtor
gives his creditor an I 0 U. (q.v.) See 2 Yerg. 50; 15 M. & W. 23. But see
2 Humph. 143; 6 Alab. R. 373.

In its form it usually contains a promise to pay, at a time therein
expressed, a sum of money to a certain person therein named, or to his
order, for value received. It is dated and signed by the maker. It is never
under seal. "

"MONEY. Gold, silver, and some other less precious metals, in the progress
of
civilization and commerce, have become the common standards of value; in
order to avoid the delay and inconvenience of regulating their weight and
quality whenever passed, the governments of the civilized world have caused
them to be manufactured in certain portions, and marked with a Stamp which
attests their value; this is called money. 1 Inst. 207; 1 Hale's Hist. 188;
1 Pardess. n. 22; Dom. Lois civ. liv. prel. t. 3, s. 2, n. 6.

Do you understand in what important way an "FRN" is defective given the
definitions above? I'm sure if you do you will plead ignorance or some
other
nonsense.

Robert Miller


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