Re: How to officially transfer an item to a party without meeting with them?
- From: gordonb.p74cq@xxxxxxxxxxx (Gordon Burditt)
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:14:13 -0000
>>That's one possibility, if the notary agrees to it. Is there any
>>reason you couldn't use Federal Express, United Parcel Service, or
>>the U.S. Postal Service? I believe all of them allow for return
>>receipts.
>>
>>There are also some escrow firms that can mediate purchases by mail
>>order or phone order or Ebay, although the main purpose of those
>>is to make sure that the purchaser gets the merchandise if and only
>>if he pays for it.
>>
>> Gordon L. Burditt
>
>I forgot to mention one detail. This individual claims to be afraid to
>give me an address (totally groundless).
>
>I am thiinking of contacting the police and handing the items over to
>them because I feel threatened by possible motives for insisting on
>meeting.
If neither of you is willing to reveal your planet of residence to
the other, you're going to have problems. I assume you have some
way of communicating, say, email.
You haven't detailed the extent of what you need for an "official"
transfer. Would a signed delivery receipt be enough?
Try this protocol:
1. Each of you names 3 states you are NOT resident in, and willing
to travel to, and sends them to the other.
2. The other person chooses one which they are NOT resident in
and which are not one of the 3 states they chose, and returns their choice.
It's possible if there's overlap to have to start this over.
3. Each person rents a mailbox at some place like Mailboxes, Etc.
that will hold mail, in the state selected by the other person.
Is it still possible to rent such a box without making a real address
public? Not, I think, with USPS but possibly with the independents.
4. The intended recipient sends the sender the address of their mailbox.
5. The sender sends the items, return receipt requested, to the recipient's
drop box, with the return receipt requested to the sender's drop box.
6. After suitable time for delivery, the recipient picks up the
delivery at the recipient's drop box (in person), signs the receipt,
and then closes the box.
7. After suitable time for delivery of the receipt, the sender picks up
the receipt at the sender's drop box (in person), then closes the box.
The sender and recipient have to trust each other enough to not
stake out the other's drop box, mail bombs or anthrax to it, or
blow up a whole state while the other one is probably in it.
Another possibility is to use *TWO* notaries, one chosen by you,
one chosen by the other person, transfer from notary-to-notary.
A less complex possibility is to rent a bus locker with a combination
lock, put the items in it, then email the combination and location
of the locker to the other party. This doesn't get you a receiipt,
though, and the recipient has to trust you not to stake out the bus
locker or put a bomb in it.
Perhaps you should watch the PBS series "Spy" about civilians being
trained as spies. They have had a number of exercises, such as
planting a message on one of their relatives without the relative
seeing or identifying them, and the use of and spotting the use of
less official mail drops (like trash cans).
Gordon L. Burditt
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