Re: I hate homework!

In article <EuBJj.30$bQ1.19@trndny09>, Jeff says...

Banty wrote:
In article <ft5dbi$4uc$1@xxxxxxxx>, toypup says...


"Ericka Kammerer" <eek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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toypup wrote:

For the average second grader, I wouldn't expect 20 sentences a week to
take very long at all. Though your child can form complicated sentences
verbally, writing is a whole different beast, as many can attest. See if
the teacher has an strategies for teaching writing. Perhaps start with a
rigid structure and then then expand from there? Is he allowed, for
instance to write, "A dog is an animal. A bird is an animal. A lizard
is an animal." When that week's words are "dog," "bird," and "lizard"?
She said previously that every sentence must include
a conjunction, so there's a requirement for at least
compound sentences. I wouldn't be surprised if the teacher
also expects that the meaning of the word be obvious from
its use in the sentence (typical requirement for vocabulary
words). Still, even the requirement for the use of a
conjunction ups the ante substantially for a 2nd grader.
True, but I was just trying to think of a way to get him started. I still
don't think 20 sentences is too much for second grade, if he doesn't have
much more than that as homework. That's only five sentences a day for four
days.

Even five sentences took a long time for my writing-adverse boy. But I would
support it more if truly we had had five days for 20 sentences! We had two
days. The words would be assigned on Monday, then Wednesday would be pick up
day, to make Thursday a review assignment and short paragraph day, to make a
quiz on Friday (and also, preserving the Holy Weekend). Monday night was the
write-out x times assignment.

Along with math, and whatever coloring dealies that the art teacher and main
teacher thought appropriate (which he also hated).

Perhaps this child is having difficulty, but I can't imagine that
most of the class is having difficulty. During one class I sat in with DS
this week, they did a 13 sentence paper. If this child was in kindergarten
or maybe even first grade maybe, but second graders should be able to do it.


I don't recall doing essays until third grade. (I clearly recall all the
students who titled theirs "My S.A."). Not until seventh grade did I have a
weekly two page writing assignment. My son had that already in third grade.
Thank your local diety I had a teacher who worked with me to start that over the
weekend.

There really has been an acceleration of expectations regarding writing,
specifically. I'm quite a fan of the importance of writing, but that doesn't
mean this current trend of *more**earlier**more* makes sense. And it had
permeated each and every other subject area in the elementary grades, under the
guise of integrated education. So that even mathematics is demanding of
writing. (On the other hand, mathematics is not integrated into other areas of
study!)

Mathematics is an integral part of science. In addition, it is important
for history, for example, understanding the population changes over time
and graphs.

Well, yes.

Are you reading these posts? Really reading them?

I'm saying (in short): reading is integrated into other areas including
mathematics, but mathematics is NOT integrated into other areas such as readin

You said (in short): mathematics is important

Well, yeah, mathematics is important. Is that all you meant to say? Well, the
sky is blue.



It's an ideological thing that is completely unsupported by any actual data.

Different groups of kids have different needs. Considering the different
life-styles like kids with nannies and highly-educationally focused
parents to kids who have very young parents on drugs who live in
shelters, the ideal homework situation varies greatly.

However, to say that giving homework is not backed by any actual data is
wrong.

This site has many references: http://www.netc.org/focus/strategies/home.php


Did you read this from that page?

<<Grade level is important when teachers assign homework. Impact of homework on
achievement increases as students move through the grades (Cooper, 1989, a, b).
At the high school level, for every 30 additional minutes of homework completed
daily, a student's GPA can increase up to half a point (Keith, 1992). Elementary
students should be assigned homework to establish good learning and study habits
(Cooper, 1989; Cooper, Lindsay, Nye, & Greathouse, 1998; Gorges & Elliot, 1999).


We're talking about homework in the *early* grades.

Banty

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