Re: What to do when your son tell you he hates you.

In article <9OWdnU7QNMc4ub_anZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Ericka Kammerer
says...

Banty wrote:
In article <HKSdnTmr75vOiL_anZ2dnUVZ_uLinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Ericka Kammerer
says...
Clisby wrote:

enigma wrote:
Beliavsky <beliavsky@xxxxxxx> wrote in
news:1193385521.091096.51550@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

(1) he worked odd jobs out of the field
(2) 5 years experience in a trade that had only existed
for 7 years at the time. yeah, that was likely.
Are you saying that he should have obtained a B.S. in
computer science instead?

not at all. i'm saying that employers sometimes ask for the impossible
in employees.
Yeah, I remember my husband once showing me an employment ad requiring
"10 years of C++ experience." At the time, you'd just about have to
have been Bjarne Stroustrup's right-hand assistant at Bell Labs to meet
that requirement.
That sort of thing is rampant in tech positions.
The hiring supervisors haven't got a clue about the technical
details and they're just going off of similar requirements for
other positions at the salary/whatever level they're hiring
for. Fortunately, you can usually ignore those. You write
up an explanation in your cover letter and hope the resume
makes it past the recruiting department to the technical
manager, who will likely jump on a good candidate and yell
at the recruiting folks.

The other possibility is that the job description was drawn up exactly to only
fit the resume of the specific candidate in mind, with whom the technical manger
has been talking, and who happens to have worked with Bjarne Stroustrup at Bell
Labs. So that it can be documented why any other candidate could not be hired,
whatever the various incentives and hiring goals are.

Banty (truly - that happens, too)

Sad, but true! (Well, I suppose not so sad if you're
the person to whom the criteria have been tailored.... ;-) ).
Of course, if you're the person looking for a job, I think
you have to at least admit the possibility of the uninformed
HR person writing the criteria and apply anyway, unless you
have knowledge that there's someone on the inside track. I
deal with HR folks writing these things all the time. To be
fair, they are usually *trying* to get the tech manager to
write up the criteria, but at some point they give up and
do the best they can or they'll never get the position
advertised!


Sure. I would never let something like that discourage anyone. Even if it's a
specifically written job description, applying is exposure, and there's always
the possibility the original candidate might have been cultivating more than one
possibility!

I saw one such ad soon before I finished grad school - it was a post doc
position which from my inside information was clearly written for a person who
was finishing up under a research group which was a rival to my own. I would
have cleanly fit the description, outrageously specific as it was. I would be
maybe the one of two or three in the world for whom that could be said. I was
tempted to apply just to mess them up :) (I had already lined up my intended
position.)

Banty

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