Re: Question for religious parents


"Clisby" <clisbyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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bizby40 wrote:
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In article <QtGdnWDUt57X15rZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, bizby40
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<cjorp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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bizby40 wrote:


The fact that a belief might change at some point is
irrelevant.

But see, it's not really. If you understand that you
cannot know for sure, you can still hold a belief
-- that which you consider most likely to be true
-- without having to decide that people who
believe differently are wrong.

It's entirely possible to hold a belief is true without having any
evidence that it is true. It's even entirely possible to hold a belief

is true, have no evidence that it is true, and have it actually be
true. It's also possible to have very good reasons for believing that
something is true, and have it be false.

Consider the proposition "All unicorns have one horn." It's either
true or false regardless of whether or not you have any evidence for
the existence of unicorns, or any faith in their existence for that
matter.

Of course there is an ultimate truth. We'll find it out
when we die. Unless of course there is no afterlife,
in which case we won't find out anything, but it won't
matter either.

Until then it's all speculation.

What's your point?


Why would we find out after we die? Even if there is an afterlife? If
there's
no afterlife, then we won't know for sure.

I never got this where we are *necessarily* going to find out after
death.. do
we all get a Cosmic Security Clearance, or what?


We would find out what happens to us at least. We
may not find out what happens to anyone else.

Bizby

If there is no afterlife, you aren't going to find out what happens to
you, either. You're just going to die, and that's it.

Clisby

I realize that. That's why I said, "Unless of course there
is no afterlife, in which case we won't find out anything, but
it won't matter either."

Bizby


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