Re: Question for religious parents


Ericka Kammerer wrote:
purplepain78@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Ericka Kammerer wrote:

purplepain78@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


I'm not sure how many times I have to say these three things:

1-"MOST" is in _my experience._

If that's what you mean, I really think you
have to say that. I.e., you have to say, "most religious
people I know are like that" not "most religious people
are like that." Many of your posts have had no such
qualifiers, and when you say you believe most religious
people are X I have no way to know that you only mean
to talk about a very small subgroup of religious people.
If you say "most dogs have four legs" it pretty much
sounds like you're making a general statement about dogs,
not something I should automatically interpret to just
mean "dogs I know tend to be four-legged, but I'm making
no claims about dogs in general."


I DID SAY THAT! I USED THE WORD "PERSONAL"!!!!

In some places you did, and in others you didn't.
I don't have a crystal ball to be able to figure out
which times you meant "only those religious folks I
have met" and which times you meant "religious folks
in general."

2-And I can only take things in my own experience, I refuse to take
anyone else word for it. What you guys have said will now go into "my
own experience" and that will mold my opinions. I AM OPEN.

That's great that you're open, but I don't agree
that you can only take your own experience. We all have
experiences, but much of life (especially a life involving
critical thinking) requires you to look beyond your own
experiences, and there are *lots* and *lots* of reliable
sources of information beyond one's personal experiences.
If I lived my life based only on my own personal experiences,
I'd be in a world of hurt. No matter how fully I live my
life, my experiences will only inform me in an extremely
limited way. More information is required, and it's not
that hard to get. Now, there are lots of things that aren't
all that relevant in my life at a particular moment and
I don't have time to investigate everything by a long shot,
but I do think it is incumbent upon me to refrain from
expressing positions--especially controversial and
inflammatory ones--that are based only on my own
limited experiences without a credible attempt to
do a reality check, at least without some significant
qualifiers.

All I can do is use my own experience. I really don't know where to get
more information.

Really? How about the library? The newspaper?

Now this next sentence might be something you want to jump on, but take
a deep breath first and read the whole thing, maybe twice:

I don't really care to get more information on this. I don't judge
people I meet for the first time. Everyone is capable of change and I
just want to live and let live. And I have bigger fish to fry. So I
will just continue to go from my personal experience and live and let
live.

So, it's moot....Even when I meet people who ridiculously believe in a
global flood or that gay people are evil I don't say anything, because
I do not want my ideas torn apart either.

It is absolutely your prerogative to decide that you
choose not to be more informed. I just don't think you can
credibly choose not to be informed and also expect others
to respect the opinions you hold based on that lack of
information or to refrain from calling you on the irony
of your calling for greater critical thinking in this area.
We all have areas we choose not to pursue further. We all
have limited time and differing priorities. It's just a
fact of life that the opinions you choose to express will
be viewed in light of those decisions, as they will for
all of us.


I don't expect people to respect my opinions...and once again, I didn't
GIVE my OPINION, I gave you my personal experience. The times that I
didn't qualify it in that way was a mistake and I corrected it. Can you
trust my correction or is it getting in the way of your being able to
fight with me?

.

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