Re: kids and their furniture?



In article <ds6eio020ho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Banty <Banty_member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <mehouck-932E88.18100705022006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
dragonlady says...

In article <ds698s01h86@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Banty <Banty_member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <h%vFf.9676$2O6.887@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, toypup says...


"Banty" <Banty_member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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But *somewhere* the concept has to be planted that things, at least
some
things,
yes, those accessible to kids too, need to be well treated, and that
has
to
happen at home.

But some things precious to one person are not precious to others. At
home,
you may teach them to care for your and their precious items, and they
may
treat their other belongings with not as much care. But sometimes, kids
may
not realize something that's not precious to them may be precious to
someone
else. The cars, for instance. I don't know a lot of boys who take great
care not to scratch up their cars, because normal use of the cars involve
crashing them together. Most children would know not to smash them with
a
hammer to destroy them, but they would not know to treat them gently so
as
not to scratch them. Heck, even the dad didn't know. So, if something
is
to be treated with more care than usual, then it needs to be kept from
others who might not know how not to damage them. On this vein, DH won't
even let me touch his baseball cards.



Why would only *precious* things be treated with care? Especially others'
stuff.

Banty



Did you have a problem with the OTHER stuff being thrown into the
toybox?

I'm genuinely curious about this. Do you think that the very idea of
making throwing things into the toybox as a game is disrespectful
towards those belongings -- a distructive thing to do?

You're restating me - I didn't say "toys" in general, I was talking about die
cast cars.


If you do, then we'll just have to agree to disagree -- I think most
people would not have a problem with throwing toys into a toybox, and
using it for "target practice" is a fairly common way to get kids to
help clean up.

If you don't -- if, in general, tossing toys into a toybox IS an
appropriate way to put toys away -- then why do you think this father
should have known that these particular toys were in a different
category? (They wouldn't be in most households.)

I have a real problem with THIS incident being used to judge a
particular parent. Once your son got upset, he may have not responded
appropriately -- but the game itself just doesn't sound that out of line
to me.


I didn't judge the parent past this one incident! I've gone on to say it
wasn't
mentioned again and we're still friends.

Really, this isn't fair. We've gone from die cast cars, specifically, to
"toys"
in general, and my relating one incident specifically, even describing a
continuing friendhip and no further mention, to "THIS incident being used to
judge....".

Perhaps you're defensive because *you'd* lead the kids in throwing hard,
painted, good-condition METAL toys across the room, taking no mind as they
chip
and grind agaisnt each other, 'cause after all, it's just some kids toys and
don't all kids wreck their stuff anyway. Well, consider that not all kids
wreck
their stuff.

Banty


I've said that right from the beginning: I could see BEING the parent
who would lead the game throwing the toys in the toybox, not realizing
that, in your house, die-cast cars weren't in the same category as the
other toys.

So, I wanted to know if you object to toys, in general being thrown into
the toybox, and if you don't, why you would expect another parent to
know that "matchbox cars" aren't in the "toys that can be thrown"
category in your house -- and why you didn't just SAY so when the father
asked what was wrong.

And we wouldn't be discussing this, except that YOU used it as an
example of someone being destructive in your house.

--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care
.



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