Re: Scientist says device disproves quantum theory
- From: "Frithiof Andreas Jensen" <frithiof.jensen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:46:59 +0100
"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html
Classic BS:
> Randell Mills, a Harvard University medic who also studied electrical
> engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
before dropping out??
> claims to have built a
> prototype power source that generates up to 1,000 times more heat than
> conventional fuel.
"fuel" being defined as ....
> Independent scientists
who, conveniently, have no names
> claim to have verified the
> experiments and Dr Mills says that his company, Blacklight Power, has tens
> of millions of dollars in investment lined up to bring the idea to market.
so it *must* be true *millions of investment dollars* just cannot be wrong
....
> And he claims to be just months away from unveiling his creation.
i.e. current month + delta
> The problem is that according to the rules of quantum mechanics, the
physics
> that governs the behaviour of atoms, the idea is theoretically impossible.
> "Physicists are quite conservative. It's not easy to convince them to
change
> a theory that is accepted for 50 to 60 years. I don't think [Mills's]
theory
> should be supported," said Jan Naudts, a theoretical physicist at the
> University of Antwerp.
>
> What has much of the physics world up in arms is Dr Mills's claim that he
> has produced a new form of hydrogen, the simplest of all the atoms, with
> just a single proton circled by one electron. In his "hydrino", the
electron
> sits a little closer to the proton than normal, and the formation of the
new
> atoms from traditional hydrogen releases huge amounts of energy.
err - is *alledged to* realease "huge amounts of energy", whatever "huge"
is.
>
> This is scientific heresy. According to quantum mechanics, electrons can
> only exist in an atom in strictly defined orbits, and the shortest
distance
> allowed between the proton and electron in hydrogen is fixed. The two
> particles are simply not allowed to get any closer.
>
> According to Dr Mills, there can be only one explanation: quantum
mechanics
> must be wrong. "We've done a lot of testing. We've got 50 independent
> validation reports, we've got 65 peer-reviewed journal articles," he said.
but we cannot name any references
> "We ran into this theoretical resistance and there are some vested
interests
> here. People are very strong and fervent protectors of this [quantum]
theory
> that they use."
so it must be a CONSPIRACY by BIG OIL
> Rick Maas, a chemist at the University of North Carolina at Asheville
(UNC)
> who specialises in sustainable energy sources, was allowed unfettered
access
> to Blacklight's laboratories this year. "We went in with a healthy amount
of
> scepticism. While it would certainly be nice if this were true, in my
> position as head of a research institution, I really wouldn't want to make
a
> mistake. The last thing I want is to be remembered as the person who
> derailed a lot of sustainable energy investment into something that wasn't
> real."
Pons and Fleichmann were Chemists too
> But Prof Maas and Randy Booker, a UNC physicist, left under no doubt about
> Dr Mill's claims. "All of us who are not quantum physicists are looking at
> Dr Mills's data and we find it very compelling," said Prof Maas. "Dr
Booker
> and I have both put our professional reputations on the line as far as
that
> goes."
all the way to the bank, one suspects
> Dr Mills's idea goes against almost a century of thinking. When scientists
> developed the theory of quantum mechanics they described a world where
> measuring the exact position or energy of a particle was impossible and
> where the laws of classical physics had no effect. The theory has been
> hailed as one of the 20th century's greatest achievements.
>
> But it is an achievement Dr Mills thinks is flawed. He turned back to
> earlier classical physics to develop a theory which, unlike quantum
> mechanics, allows an electron to move much closer to the proton at the
heart
> of a hydrogen atom and, in doing so, release the substantial amounts of
> energy he seeks to exploit.
Making Physics fit the need, eh?
> Dr Mills's theory, known as classical quantum
> mechanics and published in the journal Physics Essays in 2003, has been
> criticised most publicly by Andreas Rathke of the European Space Agency.
In
> a damning critique published recently in the New Journal of Physics, he
> argued that Dr Mills's theory was the result of mathematical mistakes.
>
> Dr Mills argues that there are plenty of flaws in Dr Rathke's critique.
"His
> paper's riddled with mistakes. We've had other physicists contact him and
> say this is embarrassing to the journal and [Dr Rathke] won't respond,"
said
> Dr Mills.
Speling ?
>
> While the theoretical tangle is unlikely to resolve itself soon, those
> wanting to exploit the technology are pushing ahead. "We would like to
> understand it from an academic standpoint and then we would like to be
able
> to use the implications to actually produce energy products," said Prof
> Maas. "The companies that are lining up behind this are household names."
>
> Dr Mills will not go into details of who is investing in his research but
easier to keep mum than to lie, I suppose
> rumours suggest a range of US power companies. It is well known also that
> Nasa's institute of advanced concepts has funded research into finding a
way
> of using Blacklight's technology to power rockets.
As are all - because there is no information to go by in that article.
> According to Prof Maas, the first product built with Blacklight's
> technology, which will be available in as little as four years, will be a
> household heater. As the technology is scaled up, he says, bigger furnaces
> will be able to boil water and turn turbines to produce electricity.
>
> In a recent economic forecast, Prof Maas calculated that hydrino energy
> would cost around 1.2 cents (0.7p) per kilowatt hour. This compares to an
> average of 5 cents per kWh for coal and 6 cents for nuclear energy.
>
> "If it's wrong, it will be proven wrong," said Kert Davies, research
> director of Greenpeace USA. "But if it's right, it is so important that
all
> else falls away. It has the potential to solve our dependence on oil. Our
> stance is of cautious optimism."
>
>
>
>
like Electronic Voice Phenomenae: telling us what we would like to hear, but
no science!
.
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