Re: Endo Shortage

On Apr 22, 3:33�pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Kurt" <kurtwheeling1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Apr 22, 1:10?am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Kurt" <kurtwheeling1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in

You don't know the history of Alan (and others) who want to deny Type
1's that disagree with them the opportunity of contributing anything
that isn't solely Type 1 related.

Hello boys and girls, today we're going to take a little field trip to
Ozgirlville, a mythical land where things are presented as the
objective truth but really aren't true at all.  Stay close, it's easy
to get lost here...



Just in case he doesn't know, even though I know he does, I'll help him
along. It is not your contributions that are a problem, it's the fact that
you interfere in any dietary discussions between type 2's. Yet you know
jack*** about the type 2 disease. You have never sat down to a >miserable
1/4 cup of oatmeal and watched your bg soar to ridiculous heights. You
have
never had experience with insulin resistance. Yet you feel fully qualified
to jump down anyone's throat (and warn type 2 newbies of the extreme
danger
of cutting down on starches but replacing them with highly nutritious
alternatives). Blind Freddy would know that you do this, repeatedly.

You're right, I don't know "jack***" about what it's like to be a
Type 2 but sometimes I wonder if you really do yourself.  Since you
lead such a perfect life and never seem to have any problems, other
than telling everyone else how to live, then it seems that you don't
understand what someone who is not so allegedly proactive must go
through in dealing with this disease. The difference between you and I
is that I understand everyone is different.  I have never told anyone
what to eat, the medications to take, or even how to deal with their
diabetes.  All I ever do is recommend that they work with their doctor
to determine their particular needs and not to solely go by the advice
they get from amateurs on the Internet .  You have a problem with that
because it disempowers you from your mission.

You seem to have forgotten your many posts to type 2's warning them about
the diet a lot of us need to maintain control.

I don't warn anyone about your diet. I recommend that they find out
what works the best for them after consulting with a professional.
However, there are a couple in here who recommend such an austere diet
that I might warn some to be leary of. Again, you have a real problem
with someone challenging your advice, even when that challenge is
"check with a professional to find out for yourself."

I can help you if you like,
your memory for the written word leaves a lot to be desired. Most of the
problems people have with you is on that subject exactly.

Please do help me. Find where I have told people to follow or not
follow one specific diet, other than being careful about 30 carbs a
day or 800 calories. I think that is dangerous. I'd bet that most in
the medical community would agree with me.

That is why you have this ridiculous notion that it is a type 1 versus
type
2 thing all the time.

Not a ridiculous notion at all, you just have blinders on and are part
of the yapping vocal mob.

You love pigeon-holing.

Not as much as you seem to.

When people find something that actually works and
isn't nutrionally deficient by any stretch of the imagination then they like
to share it with people who aren't coping with the generic advice they have
been given.

No problem with sharing, big problem with the pressure that usually
accompanies it and the slamming of doctors as a not so subtle hint to
tell people to stay here instead of trying to find someone who they
can trust, preferably an endo.

And when they don't cope the doctors accuse them of being
non-compliant. You have a major problem with that.

I've covered my opinion on non-compliant patients enough today.
You've twisted things around as usual but I find no need to repeat my
opinion. You choose not to understand it.


It's nothing to do with that. It's your persistence in
interfering with dietary stuff between type 2's when you have been shown
ad
nauseum how one can get all the nutrition they need without the high
carbs.

And you have been shown ad nauseum that the average person might not
want to eat the way you do and that there may be alternatives
available to them.

The average person has enough brains to choose for themselves

BINGO! Give that Ozgirl a cigar. It's what I've been saying for
years here. Glad you finally said it...now see if you can put it to
practice.

they don't
need Dr Kurt to try to dissuade them away from anything that he doesn't
personally believe in.

LOL. I love how you and Alan use thus childish trick of throwing what
they're guilty of back at the person who called them on it.

If the diet the doctor gave them (which in most
casesw is the diet you beleive in)

BS. Because I know when you say that you are talking about your famous
"xerox" paper and no explanations. I believe in no single diet, I
believe in finding out what the patient's needs are and working from
there to figure out what the best course of action is. The ADA offers
several approaches and advises one to work with a doctor and
nutritionist. Unfortunately you and a few others here only sell one.

doesn't work then they seek answers from
people who have succeeded. It's the way forums and newsgroups have always
been. People look for answers and they get them. They are free to choose the
path they want

But if they dare to disagree with you then all hell breaks loose. If
you were objective about this newsgroup and the advice given here you
would see that much of it it is heavy handed, one approach for all,
and anti-professional.

you don't like them choosing the path of the majority of
type 2's and once again with no type 2 experience.

I don't like to see people being given medical advice by amateurs who
pose their opinions as fact.

You claim you don't do
this but I could fill a dozen posts with links to where you have said that
kind of thing.

Post away. I'd love to see these alleged posts. However, I bet your
spin on them would be different than how they were intended.

Even the work with your doctors thing is stale

Stale? Advising someone to work with their doctor is never going to
be stale.

most of the
people looking for help have done just that and got nowhere.

If someone is not happy with their doctor they need to find one they
can feel good about and trust. Most of the dissatisfaction I read has
to do with GP's and often times in Australia or England. I can't
speak for them anymore than you should be speaking for someone in the
American medical system. I always advise people to seek out a
specialist in diabetes, as I would if someone had any other specific
disease.

Why don't you share YOUR exercise regimen, for all your criticism of
everyone else's view or supposed lack thereof  about exercise you have never
once posted what you actually do for exercise. Who knows, there may be
plenty of type 1's who might like to try your way considering you have such
a good A1c.

Yes I have, oh Mistress of the archives. Look it up.

Kurt

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