Re: HOW TO SURVIVE SCI.MED #4
- From: Happy Oyster <happy.oyster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:18:12 +0200
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT), PeterB <pkm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:58 am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The guide on how to survive misc.health.alternative
Rule #4
Do not fall for religious insanity which is disguised as medical argument.
Do not fall for Witless Seafood, whose knowledge of medical science is
non existent.
Rule #1
Do not fall for the lies of the naturopathic mafia.
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There is no "alternative medicine". Either something works, then it is
integrated into scientific medicine, or it does not work, then it is crap and no
medicine.
Question: Who is the naturopathic mafia?
Answer: We do not know who ALL are behind the goings-on in
misc.health.alternative, BUT we know that there are some criminals acting here
(and in other news-groups).
Question: Who is abusing misc.health.alternative - and why?
Answer: The question about WHO is abusing misc.health.alternative is easy to
answer, but the WHY we can only guess.
Reason: As long as these persons do not confess in public why they abuse this
news.group, we only can guess their motives. But some are quite obvious.
Stupidity is the simplest one (sic!).
The following persons are abusing the news-group mish.health.alternative:
1. Janet Mae Stidd, known as Jan Drew of Bloomington, Indiana
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There is a FAQ about her, which is irregularly posted.
Jan Drew even cannot count to 2.
Acts as a shill for Mercola and other charlatans.
To follow the medical claims of Jan Drew can lead to the death of your
children and of yourself.
2. Paul Autrey
He agressivley insults and stalks other participants.
Typical: "Nazi", "Whore", etc...
Acts as a shill for Mercola and other charlatans.
A list of typical quotes of him is irregularly posted.
3. Ilena Rosenthal <BIA@xxxxxxxxx>
She aggressively insults other users and libels them.
An example:
<quote>
From: Ilena Rose <BIA@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Subject: GORSKI, M.D.: THE WORLDWIDE WANKER OF "WOO"
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:47:06 -0600
Message-ID: <omjp655e01fgqrbuos9thfar00kv072fpc@xxxxxxx>
[...]
Haven't read this piece, but wanted to add that David Gorski (who for
years hid behind "Orac" ... is a very active participant on Wikipedia,
the Healthfraud List, the Snake oil Vigilante Brigade ... while being
a recipient of money from the DOD. He has several pro-vacccination
industry blogs ... and haunted Usenet for years tho prefers arenas
where their is censorship in his favour.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/david-gorski-md.html
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A list of typical quotes of Ilena Rosenthal is irregularly posted.
4. ironjustice <teamtanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Repeats his nonsensic claims like a record disk with a crack.
5. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love22@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
A list of typical quotes of Andrew B. Chung is irregularly posted.
Andrew B. Chung supports mass murder.
<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love20@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily Spirit-guided WDJW health tip for 08/10/09
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:21:53 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <fa267b2a-e0e9-4dae-b4f6-ccea1c3830ca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Retiring people from existence in this world and taking them up to
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heaven is not murder :-)
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"Leeerooy Jenkins" <j@xxxxx> gave a description of Andrew B. Chung in
Message-ID: <Nu6dnb94loVIlujXnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
<quote>
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@xxxxxxxxxxxx (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
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