Re: This coulda been a great forum



"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:> >>"Peter Moran"
<pmoran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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"Peter Moran" <pmoran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There is a challenge on my web
site for anyone who believes they can cure established cancer
www.cancerwatcher.com

I have had a similar challenge going since May, 2000. In the 3161 days
since, there have been exactly zero cancer "curers" prepared to come
forward.

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/cancer100.htm

I think your challenge is very rational, but too difficult, Peter.
Patient
documentation and follow-up in alternative cancer clinics is poor and
cases
where cancer is treated ONLY by alternatives are still relatively rare.
Finding 100 well-documented cases of five year survival would be very
difficult for anyone even if alternative methods worked in as many as 5%
of
cases with active cancer, and it clearly doesn't do that or we would be
seeing cases everywhere.

It would be enough for a start if they could merely produce cases where
proven cancer was shown going away with their treatment. A handful
of
such cases with normally poor-prognsois cancers out of recent experience
would be very, very strong evidence of a useful treatment. I don't
expect
absolute proof --that would come with further testing.

Peter Moran

I chose the number 100 deliberately.

No, your very own words:

I live near a large hospital which treats a lot of people with cancer. With
a bit of effort and the right pieces of paper, I could get case histories of
100 patients which showed that:


Hulda Clark's

Stan Burzynski

not-Dr "Cee"

Jan

Are not the subjects.

Why not, Jan? We were talking about people who claim to be able to
cure cancer. I agree with you that Hulda Clark and Stan Burzynski are
definitely not anything to talk about if real cures for cancer are
being discussed. And I only mentioned not-Dr "Cee" because he said
that Gerson had "cured" 600 people. I agree with you that, again, when
talking about people who can cure cancer, Gerson is a joke and doesn't
fit the category.




Peter Bowditch

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