Re: Death From Flu

On Dec 19, 12:28 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:31 am, Kevysmom <bluebun...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Dec 19, 10:23 am, marcia <marcia1234...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Dec 19, 10:09 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Much denial by the anti-vacs. Here is an analysis of this issue by an
infectious disease specialist:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=320

Is fear of death the reason so many anti-vacs are against the FLU
vaccine?

The elderly die from pneumonia, Most likely from aspirating. Not from
the flu!

If YOU read Dr. Crislip's article, you would see that the deaths are
attributed to pneumonia, THAT THE PATIENT WOULD NOT HAVE DEVELOPED HAD
THEY NOT HAD THE FLU.

Right. Pneumonia (viral pneumonia, not aspiration pneumonia) is one of
the *complications* that can arise from the flu, because the flu is a
serious respiratory infection.

Here's what the CDC says: "Influenza (the flu) is a contagious
respiratory illness caused by influenza viruses. It can cause mild to
severe illness, and at times can lead to death. The best way to
prevent the flu is by getting a flu vaccination each year. Every year
in the United States, on average 5% to 20% of the population gets the
flu; more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from flu complications,
and; about 36,000 people die from flu. Some people, such as older
people, young children, and people with certain health conditions, are
at high risk for serious flu complications."

Here's a fact *** from the CDC that addresses common misconceptions
about the flu vaccine:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm

The effectiveness of the vaccine is slightly variable because
researchers have to guess, the year before the vaccine becomes
available, which strains are most like to be prevalent during the
following season.

"How well the flu vaccine works depends on how well the match is
between the influenza (flu) vaccine and the types of flu viruses that
are circulating that year. Scientists try to predict what strains
(types) of flu viruses are most likely to spread and cause illness
each year to put into the vaccine. In years when the vaccine strains
and the virus strains are well-matched, the vaccine can reduce the
chances of getting the flu by 70%-90% in healthy adults. The vaccine
may be somewhat less effective in elderly persons and very young
children, but vaccination can still prevent serious complications from
the flu.

In healthy adults less than 65 years of age, the flu vaccine can also
prevent lost work days, and keep you from having to see the doctor or
using unnecessary antibiotics. "



Studies have also shown that the flu vaccines has not reduced
deaths in the elderly, Please explain why the elderly continue to
receive a vaccine that has been shown in medical studies to be
ineffective?

Because it is effective, and the wider use of the vaccine will make it
more effective.

What studies have shown flu vaccines don't reduce flu-related deaths
in the elderly? Can you provide a link to any of this research?


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