Re: Acupuncture Training at University of Miami Medical School

In article <66fe0412-b5ec-4717-9242-c62dd786c59d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: On May 25, 8:50 am, schu...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Richard Schultz) wrote:
:> In article <d187741e-bb0d-4ae2-8244-34da047e4...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:> : Martin!!! Are you the dude who told us in another thread that you did
:> : not think Dr. Rustum Roy PhD in materials science knew that the
:> : burning water was from the dissociation of hydrogen and oxygen??

:> Even if that were not the case, you are treading on dangerous ground
:> when you make that kind of argument. After all, I have a Ph. D. in
:> physical chemistry -- of the two of us, which one do you think knows more
:> about the structure of liquid water?

: Was that an APPEAL TO AUTHORITY I just read?

No, it was an example of how your argument that Rustum Roy, Ph.D. must
know what he is talking about because he has a Ph.D. can backfire on
you because the *same argument* can be used to demonstrated that I must
know what I am talking about because I have a Ph.D. The two arguments
are equally fallacious; but if *you* accept the one, then *you* have to
accept the other. Or you can be like me and accept neither of them. I've
known plenty of incompetent Ph.D.'s in my time; all that the degree proves
is that a person could make it through 4-6 years of graduate school without
seriously annoying anyone. It's no guarantee of competence, although it
may be evidence for competence.

: No? YES!... No. YES!!! No, it could not be... YES IT COULD BE!

For someone who makes such a big deal about how good he is at logical thinking,
you have a remarkably poor ability to follow an argument to its conclusion.

: Well allright, while I've got you here, could you please tell me about
: shaking a vial of water -> if these oligomer structures whose
: 3D spatial arrangements can hold patterns exist
: that Dr. Rustum Roy says are present, Dr. Peter Moran says why would
: the shaking not break up the structures rather than cause them to form,
: as the Homeopathists claim?
:
: Any thoughts?

I think that Dr. Moran knows a lot more about chemistry than you do.

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Richard Schultz schultr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time." -- The French Knight
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