Re: Cancer and the way some Doctors view same.

On Mar 10, 4:45 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Rod" <deniecer...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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Hi,

I wrote many months ago about my brother in law that was found to have
Bowel cancer.
The cancer was removed surgically in January 2007 and all went well except
for spots on the liver.
Bob went through Chemo for this which seemed successful except by August
the next diagnosis was for spots on the lung.

Initially the diagnosis after spots on the liver were found was for a
shortened life span but some hope of chemo being useful. The next phase
was for spots on the lung which the patient was told that lifespan had
been shortened.
After Chemo the prognosis for the liver had changed to perhaps an operable
situation for cure with the liver problem but enhanced problems with the
lungs.
Come December the patient was admitted to hospital with a suspected virus
caused by the Chemo, then all hell broke loose in February with the
diagnosis being a spread of cancer to the brain.
At this stage whilst in hospital Bob was informed by three Doctors that he
had around two weeks to live and that he should go home and sort out his
affairs. The basis of this prognosis seemed to be reliant on that Chemo
was ineffective with brain cancer. Then after a visit to the treating
Oncologist he was informed that maybe he has two months with nothing else
available. Chemo not being an option for brain cancer patients. The
Oncologist shook his head at the request for perhaps a year or two.

Bob and his wife insisted that he be assessed for radio therapy as a means
of prolonging life. They went to their Doctor who said that he would
recommend radio therapy if the Oncologist did not. Today after the visit
for radio therapy he is told that chemo is available after radio therapy
and with both treatments he may have another year or two. When confronted
with what was said by other Doctors and the Oncologist,  the specialist
stated that he would like to know their names but then decided that there
was little that could be achieved.

So it goes on with Doctors insisting on death along with nursing staff and
then finally some hope with radio therapy from the specialist.

Can you imagine how all this uncertainty dispensed by the medical industry
is affecting a family and those around them?

Can you imagine the mood swings that these people are experiencing whilst
one or more Doctors says that you will die within two weeks and then the
specialist says that you have two years with good treatment?

Today after that visit to the main hospital Bob was told that they could
and would do radio therapy which should give them the time that they so
desperately need.

More to the point is that if you were to receive this diagnosis whilst
your hand and feet were uncontrollable due to brain cancer would you
accept the initial diagnosis from two Doctors and an Oncologist and if you
felt strongly enough to stop the pain to loved ones, would you consider
suicide or would you ignore the consensus of opinion and seek further
treatment.

Luckily they have elected for further treatment and have not succumbed to
the Doctors expressed opinions.

Rod

A sad but common scenario.  Without even looking at any studies that have
been performed on patients in this situation we can say that "may have
another year or two" is not necessarily false, but it is almost certainly an
extremely optimistic outlook for a program of treatment that may merely make
his life less tolerable than it already is.   We can predict that by far the
majority of patients who undertake this treatment will derive little or no
benefit, and that if survival is, on average,  prolonged it will be more
likely to be of a couple of months than years.

But then 1 in 10,000 patients may even be cured by it!  Odd things sometimes
happen in cancer treatment.     There is no "correct" medical approach
because we cannot predict the outcome in the individual case.   We have
weigh the possibilities against the probabilities.

In an ideal world the patient's decision after fully informed consent
(better than m ay be applying here) would determine what is done.   In the
real world cost-benefit considerations and the availability of resources and
the personal opinions of doctors will have an influence on what is offered
patients.

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Petey the Moron pontificates and obfuscates once again.

Petey, tell Rod that chemo and radiation are merely "palliation" for
the condition of cancer. Then explain to Rod what palliation means
and what the palliation of cancer results in....death and/or more
cancer...and death.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons...including
radiation.
.

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