Re: Who is Hulda Clark? --some good links

On Jan 1, 11:37 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:20:48 +1100, "Carole" <hub...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Some good Hulda Clark links at
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/HuldaClark/index.htm

Including a link to one of her earlier books, 'The Cure for all Diseases'
which is online in pdf format.

I'm going to have a read and find out just what she is all about.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

Carole, why would you waste even one minute reading any of her stuff,
other than out of morbid curiosity, since she can not produce even one
person her 'Cure' has cured? Don't you have a life?
And how about this: first she published this book which supposedly
contains the cure for *all* diseases, then she published a book with
the cure for cancer. That should have been in the first book, since
it's the cure for *all* disease. Something doesn't add up here Carole.

http://www.bestzapper.com/who_is_dr_clark.html

Jan, don't you dare promote these  people!!    Arthur Doerksen claims to
have cured himself of cancer TWICE, but he is an entirely untrustworthy
person who now sells Zappers and other quack material.

I use his testimonials In "How to Read a Cancer Testimonialhttp://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/how_to_read_a_testimonial.htm to
show how unreliable  many really are (see below) .

These people were also involved with and encouraging the poor soul whose
awful lip cancer photos appear on the same  web page.  That man used Hulda's
methods and  treatment for the Doerksons including Zappers until he realized
they didn't work.    Hulda must have treated many patients with photos of
the cancer like this.  Why can't she show them responding to her treatment?
Why, for that matter are you STILL unable to accept that (at least) her
cancer claims are quackery?

To make matters worse, the Doerksens think they are good Christians.

Quote---
From  the web sitehttp://bestzapper.com/testmony.htm--

"I first noticed the tumor in my left breast in April 1994 when I felt a
sharp pain when I got a hug. I assumed it was a bruise, but it did not go
away. My wife Lyn checked it and found a small lump directly behind the
nipple. It grew in size and discomfort for seven months till it was about
1.25 inches across and 0.25 inches thick, and was starting to head toward my
armpit. I was still taking eight grams of vitamin C daily with the other
anti-oxidants. Then in November 1994, we got Dr. Hulda Regehr Clark's first
book, The Cure for All Cancers. In the book she gives her theory that cancer
is caused by a common parasite, the human intestinal fluke (fasciolopsis
buskii), "catalyzed" by isopropyl alcohol accumulated in the liver.

On November 23, 1994, I began the herbal parasite program. Lyn went through
the house clearing out all isopropyl-tainted soaps, shampoos, foods, body
products, cleaners and other solvents. She put four cardboard boxes of the
stuff outside under our deck. After five days on the parasite herbs I
noticed that the pain reduced greatly. Dr. Clark says the parasites die on
the fifth day with the herbs. After two weeks Lyn could feel a noticeable
decrease in the size of the tumor, and after three months the tumor was
gone! "

My comments -- This is an absolutely typical story for gynaecomastia,  a
common (but rarely discussed for obvious reasons) benign condition of the
male breast.   It mostly resolves spontaneously after some months. .  It is
commonly due to medications and in this instance could have been due to one
of the alternative  products he was taking.

Women also often provide testimonials of presumed   "breast cancers" going
away with alternative treatments.    Yet at least nine out of ten female
breast lumps are benign (i.e. not cancer), and even  suspicious breast lumps
coming to biopsy prove to be mostly benign.  They are usually due to
variants of hormonally dependent fibrocystic disease and many will go away
by themselves after a few menstrual cycles.

It is difficult to think of any situation where a testimonial lacking a
biopsy diagnosis of cancer is worthy of notice, although metastatic cancer
can often be confidently diagnosed by typical appearances on imaging (scans,
x-rays) and marker studies.

The author of the above testimonial claims to have cured himself of
incurable cancer twice.  The other instance was a level lll melanoma,
removed from his shoulder in 1987.    Level lll  means that the melanoma has
not yet gone through the full thickness of the skin or even into the
reticular dermis, the thickest layer of the skin.  It does not mean an
advanced cancer, and no other spread is described.  . Simple excision will
be curative in the vast majority of such cases.  The graph athttp://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Alternative_studies.htm
shows that the 15 year survival rate of Stage l melanoma, as this was,  is
in the vicinity of  75-80%) .   The surgeon seems to have offered him
unnecessarily aggressive treatment if this story is true in all other
respects.

 PM

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Peter Moran:

You are, again claiming expertise you apparently are unable to
validate. You have not yet sent me your Patient list so we can verify
your claims of expertise. Why not?

Concerned about your credibiity in California...

Tim Bolen
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