Re: Is the Cause of Cancer a Common Fungus?

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On Dec 9, 12:17 am, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Kelley Eidem" <awthraw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> On Dec 8, 3:31 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> "Kelley Eidem" <awthraw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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>> > On Dec 7, 7:15 pm, "Carole" <hub...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> Is the Cause of Cancer a Common
>> >> Fungus?http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/CancerIsAFungus.html

>> >> by Dr Tullio Simoncini (c)2007
>> >> Email: t.simonc...@xxxxxxxx
>> >> Website:http://www.cancerfungus.com

>> > [Snipped for space.]

>> > While I personally believe that Dr. Simoncini is not quite right in
>> > his hypothesis, he does offer much that is highly worthwhile.

>> > Candida and other fungi can play a critically important role in the
>> > activation of cancer cells.

>> > While explaining this, I'm going to talk in terms that are extremely
>> > informal, unlike Simoncini's essay. That said, what much of it comes
>> > down to is fungus 'poop.'

>> > I've read that fungi release something like 82 toxins in their poop.
>> > These toxins act as a protectant to itself, further creating an >> > acidic
>> > pool in which to live. They love that acidity.

>> > Cancer cells also become active when the pool is too acidic. (They
>> > will also become active when the pool is too alkaline. This fact has
>> > the impact of destroying the candida theory, since they won't >> > survive
>> > in a super alkaline pool.)

>> > Since fungi are a major producer of acidity, it only stands to >> > reason
>> > that one would spot lots of candida or other fungi present in the
>> > presence of cancer cells.

>> > To be sure, if one has a fungal problem for too long, cancer is a
>> > common outcome. Likewise, it would be almost impossible to rid >> > oneself
>> > of cancer without addressing the fungal component, because of its
>> > large role in providing an overly acidic environment which cancer
>> > cells thrive under.

>> > I found the bicarbonate of soda treatment interesting. It is an
>> > alkaline compound, thus it would go at least part way to taming any
>> > cancer cells it meets as well as any fungi.

>> > The shortcoming to bicarbonate of soda is that it's not a durable
>> > compound in the body. For greater durability, a fat soluble lipid is
>> > required.

>> > Fatty acids are an example of such lipids. They are commonly known >> > to
>> > play a significant role in preventing cancer. Of course they do: >> > They
>> > are alkaline, and they stay that way. They seek out cell walls,
>> > strengthening them by acting as a lipid defense system.

>> > Their alkalinity tames cancer cell activity.

>> > Dr. Emanuel Revici is the leader in discovering the role lipds have >> > in
>> > taming and curing cancer. To see some of his results, go to
>> >http://snipurl.com/cancerbeforeandafter.

>> > One can see live viruses, bacteria and fungi doing their thing. One >> > of
>> > the videos on e page listed below is called "Symbiosis Or >> > Parasitism:
>> > A Treatise On Cancer." The other is "Humoral Pathology."

>> > Watch both to find out what is really going on.

>> > You'll need to scroll down the page to find the videos:

>> >http://snipurl.com/symbiosis

>> I've looked at some of these videos and have some personal experience >> of
>> phase contrast and dark field microscopy. This kind of microscope is
>> very
>> sensitive to artefact. Also, in these videos the blood is diluted >> with
>> various solutions, creating ample opportunity for contamination. I >> see
>> no
>> indication that those purporting to have found these otherwise
>> indemonstrable organisms have taken the necessary steps to exclude >> such
>> artefact. Nor do I see any material, anywhere, showing that such
>> findings are more likely to be present in cancer patients.

>> Good scientists dot their I's and cross their T's without being asked.
>> They
>> anticipate the objections of skeptics, regarding them as a necessary
>> element for the advancement of scientific knowledge.

>> PM

> It wasn't clear to me from what you wrote if you recognized that the
> link was not to a phase contrast or a dark field microscope. There are
> no phase contrast nor contrast dyes and it is not a dark field
> microscope video.

Or gray field. Thye use similar optical tricks .



> You and I are seeing two entirely different things. Maybe it's because
> you say you've "looked at"... "some of these videos". That sounds like
> a cursory viewing.

I watched the whole video on the site you mention, and have previously seen
others.

> It's clear in the video that a microbe is going through a variety of
> anatomical changes, from 'endbiont" all the way through to fungus.
> Each anatomical change is evident along the way.

That is NOT clear at all. There is one small section that supposedly
showed a quite large Y shaped strucrure changing into a rod, but this could
simply be due to rotation around its main axis. No other transitions are
shown, nor have transitional forms between viruses and larger microrgansims
ever been demonstrated in other scientific study. The polymorphic crowd
are seeing lots of different objects (with a big eye of faith) and merely
conjecture that they are all one.

Do you understand that viruses, prions and even organisms as large as
Riskettsia have no biological activity at all outside of the cells of other
organisms? Even the larger viruses are little more than of a fragment of
nucleic acid in a protein shell. They lack the genetic programs and the
biochemical tools to evolve into larger and more complex organisms. The
claims are not merely not well supported by the evidence produced, they are
extremely unlikely biologically.



> The presence of possible artifacts doesn't cancel out the activity of
> the microbe's transformation.

It does until the claimants show that it has been adequately excluded.
Take almost any biologically compatible solution, bottle it and put it on
the shelf fro a while and before long you have particulate precipitation and
microbial contamination. I suspect the people who are pushing this kind of
stuff are microscope people with little experience of serious laboratory
study or of the rest of microbiology.

PM

Peter, I wish I could give you a thorough reply but I'd need to watch
the 50 minute video once again. I'm in the midst of dealing with
longstanding grade 2 spondylolithesis (sp?) and severe pars defects
that was significantly aggravated from a dinky little fall 9 months
ago.

Today has been particularly challenging, barely being able to walk.

As a result, it is hard for me to focus on anything for very long.

There's a calcium deposit located between the S1 and the L5 that has
stabilized the L5 from falling out further lo these many years
(probably 56 years).

But it also means that the L5 can't be moved back in place without
some sort of surgery. So that's what I'm going to do, after it's
confirmed by the neurosurgeon. He hasn't seen the MRI or x-rays yet.
But I did speak with him during the Q & A at a lecture he gave. He
said he thinks I'm a likely candidate.

I sure hope so.

The surgery is minimally invasive with a 1/2 incision. They use what's
is called an O ARM. It provides real time 3D images during the
surgery, which enables the surgeon to be more precise. I think it's
like a CT scan, so yes, I'll be cooked for sure.

It sounds like you have a spondylolisthesis. Is that correct?

Orthopoedics is not my field of expertise, but I would be very cautious about any claim that surgery can correct a long-standing example of this. And don't be too impressed by the minimally invasive aspect --- it can reduce operative discomfort and hasten recovery but it does not, in general, reduce the risks of surgery. Also how long have you had disabling symptoms? Most back problems will settle in time and there is a long and sad record of back surgeries that proved to perform no better than just waiting a bit..

What is planned? A spinal fusion of L5/ S1?
PM



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