childhood cancers increasing? (Re: Dr Cree...


I often come across statements that childhood cancers have increased
dramatically at least since the polio vaccinations in the 1950s. So I
wonder, where are the stats? Does anyone has any reliable stats? How come
nobody posted them as yet?



Yuri.


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On Nov 12, 5:55 pm, Kevysmom <bluebun...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was being nosy and peeked at your profile. :o)

I see that you have done research for cancer, what causes
cancer?

I have a dear friend who is a Professor of Molecular
Science,
He is
the best and has helped me understand
how our genes play a role in diseases. What I mean by this,
If
we
inject a toxin into a human body it can target a specific
gene
and
turn it completely off, or it could just damage it enough
where you
would get an over-expression on that gene. This is what
happens with
macrocephaly and microcephaly. Could this be what happens
regarding
cancer, could there be an over-expression of a protein on a
gene that
was slightly damaged from a toxin? What makes a tumor grow?

TIA

Donna
Wow, what a question. What causes cancer?

Within allopathic medicine, they have absolutely no idea.
There does
not exist any model of cancer formation to discuss. We do
know
that
carcinogens and radiation causes cancer. We know that we can
induce
tumors by many means. Even palpating a female rat
incorrectly
can
cause tumors. But, do we have a model for cancer
formation...and even
as important, a model for the healing of cancer...no, no, and
no.
Modern medicine has no idea why chemo works, even as poorly
as
it
does.
Chemotherapy doesn't work. There's absolutely no evidence that
it works.

Don't you know this, Dr. Cee?
Cee doesn't think anything works, and neither do you.

But you're both wrong. Chemo works great against some
diseases,
like
childhood leukemias, which used to be almost uniformly fatal.
In the old days, there were hardly any childhood leukemias.
Corporate
Medicine creates a disease, and then it claims to cure some of
it...
Suppose you provide us with some evidence that "in the old days,
there
were hardly any childhood leukemias."
Well, I know that there's been a massive increase in childhood
leukemias in the last 20 years or so.

Didn't you know this, David? Is your ignorance so overwhelming?
If there has been an increase, and that it a claim you need to
prove,
Are you so ignorant that you don't know this?
What I know is that YOU cannot prove a claim you made,

But I can.

But you have not., in spite of being asked to do so.

Mark, Mark, Mark...how many times have you been asked to prove your
claims?
FACT: You have not done so.


thus, you are an anti-vaccination sociopathic liar.

I just wanted to demonstrate your ignorance for all the world to see.

Keep working at it. As for the world seeing it, your megalomania is
showing.

When you cannot provide proof. You personally insult while accusing
others of same.


There's indeed been a massive increase in childhood leukemias in the
last 20 years or so.

Do prove that statement. You said you could, now do it.

<Play Jeopardy song>

Is there anyone other than Mark who doesn't know this?

Intelligent people.

That leaves you out.

Intelligent people show proof. Unlike you.

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/95/20/1539

Background: Studies from various countries have found an increasing
incidence of childhood leukemia in recent decades. To characterize time
trends in the age- and sex-specific incidence of childhood acute
leukemia
during the last 20 years

===

Even the NCI states it.

Perhaps you should have reported the FINDINGS of the study, not the
reason they started looking:

"No statistically significant change was seen in the overall incidence
rate for acute lymphoblastic leukemia during the 20-year study"

and

"Conclusion: Incidences of acute myeloid leukemia overall, acute
lymphoblastic leukemia overall, and specific acute lymphoblastic
leukemia immunophenotypes have been stable in the Nordic countries
over the past two decades"

Do you ever read what you cite?




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http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112678771/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

This link give an error in both IE and Firefox, saying that a cookie
can't be set. I have no cookie blocking on my computer in either
browser.


http://groups.google.com/group/talk.environment/browse_thread/thread/738b3565f6b990eb/68095bebc8491794%2368095bebc8491794

Dear Jan,

Thank you for helping these Pharma ignorants to come to terms with basic
Epidemiology 100.

I would like to add my thanks to Jan for citing a study which
concluded:

"Conclusion: Incidences of acute myeloid leukemia overall, acute
lymphoblastic leukemia overall, and specific acute lymphoblastic
leukemia immunophenotypes have been stable in the Nordic countries
over the past two decades".


Many people just don't realise how ignorant most doctors are...

But we all know how ignorant you are.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com


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