Re: Good enough for doctors but not "good enough" for you!

On Oct 14, 4:30 pm, brightwinger <awthraw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 14, 12:33 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:





On Oct 14, 10:13 am, brightwinger <awthraw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Oh, I see, ginger is found in emergency rooms all across this country
because the doctors and staff aren't using it. ROFLMAO at you.

You've said this repeatedly without backing it up. In other words,
its just a bunch of conspiratorial doggerel without any evidence.
That's very typical of you. Keep on laughing, Monkey Boy, we're
laughing right along at you.

As a bona-fide herbalist, I've told why it isn't a good idea to
give it out willy nilly. It isn't a freakin' panacea.

No one said it was a panacea. That's merely another attempt by you to
interject a straw man for you to destroy.

In your delusional mind, you've pitched it as something that MD's
regularly use and regularly withhold from patients.
You haven't demonstrated that it actually is widely used by MD's much
less is in most every ER. We only have your word on it and we just
how little that is worth. Stop telling lies or post proof of your
assertion. Of course, I don't expect you to do that. If there were
some proof to your fairy tale, you would have posted it.

You want me to prove a conversation I had?? Who are you, Perry Mason??
And if I can't prove the conversation to you, then that makes it a lie
in your eyes?? Have you ever considered discussing your rage issues
with a professional?

Have you ever taken the time to look up the word "projection"?
You're the one who believes that modern oncology is just another word
for poisoning.

After about 25,000,000 cancer deaths in the US in the last 60 years
since
chemo-poison was first foisted on unwitting cancer patients, I'm
starting to see the beginnings of a trend, aren't you?

No, you're just an angry, scientific illiterate. You don't understand
that cancer is a disease of aging. You don't even understand that the
# of cancer cases and deaths increase along with the population, too.
You've never even checked out how the survival rates have improved
greatly. What you've done is built a life of delusion wherein YOU
have powerful knowledge and are fighting a global conspiracy. In
reality, you sit at a cash register trying to pimp a book based on a
60 year old x-ray.



Meanwhile, if you want the complete definition of oncologist lets be
sure to include "blind torturer, ignorant killer, callous pig, etc."
To keep doing the same thing over and over again when the results are
consistently so horrible is the definition of insanity...so let's
include "insane butcher" in the definition, too.

Thanks for making my point for me. I'm sure that your actual
conversations with MD's are based on that BS. Your fabricated
conversations are the ones where you are civil and show them the
light. Its clear to us, even if you choose to believe your lies.


Never have so few been paid so much to kill so many with the
permission of the state. Hitler and his minions were able to kill more
in a shorter period of time, but he pissed people off, and rightly so.
The oncologists, who started with mustard gas...bannned for use in
civilized warfare but "billed for" by oncologists... have continued to
poison the unsuspecting for decades.

Ah, the narcissitic rage burns brightly in this one! You go, Kelly!
Let that rage give you a sense of special purpose while you work the
check out line!


Come to think of it, no wonder you have so much rage. If I'd been
responsible for so many deaths, I couldn't sleep at night either.

Kelley, its hard to tell where your delusions end and where your
stupidity begins. They're both huge, no doubt!
First off, you've got a serious case of projection going on. Look it
up and have an adult explain it to you.
For the logic impaired (that's you & your ilk, Kelley), I'm an
Acupuncturist. I'm not an oncologist and I'm not an MD.




You're the one who believes Revici was dismissed by a
bunch of drunk MD's.

I have the bar bills...and the court testimony.

Sure you do, Kelley, right along with the cure for cancer. Pathetic.


You're the one who believes Dr Moran is a liar
because he doesn't buy into your radiological "evidence". You're the
one who believes that candied ginger is being withheld from the
suffering because MD's want to keep it to themselves.

I'm just relaying the facts. Do you recall the famous study of
oncologists where 3/4 of them said they would NOT subject themselves
to chemo if they had cancer! You say I make stuff up...the facts are
too unbelievable to make them up.


The anger just spews from your keyboard, Monkey Boy! Please post a
link to the "famous" study.




You're the angry one, Kelley. You have lots of unresolvable rage.
Direct it inward.

Spoken like a true rage sufferer.

You spoke it, Kelley!






I said that ginger is used in hospitals all over by the staff for
indigestion and nausea, including by doctors. The doctor in the story
didn't have to hunt down the ginger...it was readily accessible. Does
that sound like no one is using it??

It sounds like another one of your many lies. I've asked some MD's
and ER techs and they say you're wrong.

Hey, how about you prove that you asked some MD's and ER techs. If
you can't prove it does that make you a liar?

You're free to disregard my facts like you do all others that dispute
your world view. My statement can be verified in so much as it
reflects the truth. If you want to constructively dispute what I said,
show me some proof. After all, as claimant, the burden of proof is
upon you.

You are claiming you've spoken to MD's and techs. That is a claim, my
good serial killing friend. Where's your proof?

You made the initial claim. I called shenanigans on it. You have to
prove your CLAIMS, something you could do IF you had some proof. What
you have are delusions and rage. That only proves your state of
mind. Your argument is lacking facts.



And their crystal ball took them back to the ER where the original
conversation took place?? Did it occur to you that it might be a
regional thing. Maybe the doctor who said he'd never been in an
emergency room where ginger wasn't available had been several Southern
Hospitals. He certainly hasn't been in EVERY hospital across the US.

But in your pea brain because your sample of ER techs and MD.'s came
up empty, you've gone off into rage mode.

It is clearly not ubiquitus like you claimed. Heck, I've spoken with
people a 3 other ER's and we're still at ZERO.
Perhaps you should have checked things about before you made up this
story.

So in addition to making hundreds of postings here, you're also
calling three different ER's to ask them about ginger, according to
you, that is. That sounds really believable...I'm falling for every
word, and I'm sure so is everyone else.

My cousin is a surgeon at a trauma center. Another cousin is the top
dog at MCVA. One of my friends is a surgeon in an Orlando hospital.
It took me all of 15 minutes to email them.






As a matter of fact, you are
always contradicted by people who practice medicine. Do you see a
pattern, Monkey Boy?

Yes, I do...your pattern of rage should be a concern for you.

Rage? No, I'm just describing you in terms you can understand.

Medicine isn't a do-it-yourself hobby where GED
candidates get to play Doctor.

You sure do have a lot of free time on your hands for claiming to
being a doctor. But the internet can be a shortcut for a real medical
degree for someone like you.

I've spent about 2 hours a week on Usenet as a whole, about half of it
on MHA.

You've made as many as 390+ postings in a month. That's about 13 a
day, or 90 a week. This does not include the time you read posts or
look up porn.

Once again, its unclear when you're lying and when you're just being
stupid. Google says the # is 121. That's right, Monkey boy, you've
overstated my postings by a factor of 3.5. You must be proud!

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Where do those 'two hours,' as you put it, go?

Where did you learn how to count?



You, on the other hand, spend much more than that fabricating
conversations & anecdotes. Sadly, you do it to promote a conspiracy
theory and to defame mainstream medicine. You're not doing anything
that will help people, only turn them into disaffected losers like
yourself.

Customers tell me on a regular basis how the natural supplements they
have taken, either from my suggestion or from their own reading, have
helped them tremendously. I'll bet you don't get much of that from the
balding, blinded, kidney damaged victims you deal with 'Doctor.'

Kelley, once again, I thank you for demonstrating that you are a
delusional narcissist and pathological liar.


Medicine isn't a do-it-yourself hobby, Kelley. You prove my point
with every post you make!

Medicine, as it's largely practiced today, ought to be listed in the
penal code.

Don't let that anger give you a heart attack, Kelley! You better keep
some crystalized or candied ginger on you in case of an MI. After
all, you sure don't want to end up in an ER without it!


How is it, that someone can get paid to maim and kill, when in
contrast I was able to cure my own stage 4 cancer for about $10 nine
years ago?

You're asking me to explain something that happened within the context
of your narcissitic delusions? Egad, Kelley, I just deal with
reality, not your bizarre belief system.



What's the most you've ever billed for one of your dead patients? Did
you ever have the dead victim's house foreclosed on to pay your bill?

ROTFLMAO! I'm an acupuncturist, you crazy man!



Did you ever hold the hand of a chemo-sickened patient who hovered
over the sink and toilet on their hands and knees not knowing from
which end they would expel next? Because you should know that a good
percentage of your patients end up doing just that before they die,
thanks to the chemo-poison you prescribe.- Hide quoted text -

I've provided supportive & pallative to more cancer patients than
you've read books. I've treated my own mother who has had cancer
treatment. She is doing quite well 10 years after being treated &
cured by a combination of surgery and chemo. At seventy, she runs a
business, is on the foundation board of a University, a major officer
in a charity, and a whole lot more. She does more in a day than you
do in a week. If she had taken your advice, she'd be dead. As it is,
she is alive and well.

In all seriousness, you need help. You're living out your narcissitic
rage in a world of delusion. Print that out on a label, affix it to
your forehead, and get to a psychologist/psychiatrist.

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