Re: Pennsylvania Dental Board Approves Cavitat Device, NICO - Dumps Quackbusters...

On Sep 29, 7:00 pm, jurim...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:53 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





jurim...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

There is the proof that were scammed. There is no such thing as a
*MERCURY* amalgam.
Amalgams are safe, effective, & durable. NICO is fraud, something
that credulous, scientifically illiterate stool handlers are highly
susceptible to.

Andrew Kingoff:

Ahhh, at last, someone from the quackpot camp with the cojones to
openly make a defamatory statement, or two.

(1) Please show some documentation for the statement you made "There
is no such thing as a *MERCURY* amalgam."

"Liquid mercury has the ability to dissolve other metals to produce
alloys and these alloys are called amalgams. Amalgam examples are
gold/mercury, silver/mercury and copper/mercury all of which are used
in dentistry".

http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/vchemlib/mol/glossary/

"Any alloy of mercury and another metal. Some amalgams occur
naturally. Note: There is a mineral known as Amalgam, and, although it
is an amalgam, should not be confused with the term amalgam".

http://www.inlandlapidary.com/user_area/glossaryA.asp

"An amalgam is any mixture or blending of mercury with another metal
or with an alloy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam

And don't forgethttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/amalgam

It's really simple, Tim - an amalgam is an alloy of mercury and some
other metal or alloy. Nobody is denying that there is mercury in
dental amalgam (for to do so would be stupid), just that there is any
meaning to the term "mercury amalgam". The use of the term (especially
by someone who has been repeatedly advised of the facts) indicates an
ignorance of metallurgy, chemistry and reality.

(2) Then, please show us documentation for the statement "Amalgams
are safe, effective, & durable."

Anyone who denies that dental amalgam is effective and durable is so
obsessed with amalgam that any attempt at conversation would be
futile, so let's just stick to safe. The fact that literally billions
of amalgam fillings have been inserted over the last 175 years
suggests safety, otherwise there would be millions of people showing
obvious effects, but let's just let the scientists do the talking.
Here are two examples:

Neuropsychological and Renal Effects of Dental Amalgam in Children

JAMA. 2006;295:1775-1783.

Conclusions
In this study, there were no statistically significant differences in
adverse neuropsychological or renal effects observed over the 5-year
period in children whose caries were restored using dental amalgam or
composite materials. Although it is possible that very small IQ
effects cannot be ruled out, these findings suggest that the health
effects of amalgam restorations in children need not be the basis of
treatment decisions when choosing restorative dental materials.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/295/15/1775?maxtoshow=&HITS...

http://tinyurl.com/2n2btu

Neurobehavioral Effects of Dental Amalgam in Children

JAMA. 2006;295:1784-1792.

Conclusions
In this study, children who received dental restorative treatment with
amalgam did not, on average, have statistically significant
differences in neurobehavioral assessments or in nerve conduction
velocity when compared with children who received resin composite
materials without amalgam. These findings, combined with the trend of
higher treatment need later among those receiving composite, suggest
that amalgam should remain a viable dental restorative option for
children.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/295/15/1784?maxtoshow=&HITS...

http://tinyurl.com/2v88hv

But while we are talking about durability:

The longevity of amalgam versus compomer/composite restorations in
posterior primary and permanent teeth

J Am Dent Assoc, Vol 138, No 6, 763-772.

Conclusion.

Although the overall difference in longevity was not statistically
significant, compomer was replaced significantly more frequently owing
to recurrent caries, and composite restorations required seven times
as many repairs as did amalgam restorations.

http://jada.ada.org/cgi/content/abstract/138/6/763

(3) Then, please show us documentation for the statement "NICO is
fraud, something that credulous, scientifically illiterate stool
handlers are highly susceptible to."

Please show us documentation that NICO is not a fraud. Some science
would do. The fact that credulous scientifically illiterate stool
handlers are susceptible to fraud should be obvious to anyone, which
is one of the reasons that they are targeted in the marketing of
fraudulent medical practices.

Your third statement is outright defamation, for the term NICO, and
the science behind it, can be directly related to specific high-
ranking dentists in the US.

Would they be the dentists in the list supplied to the court by Aetna?
You know, the ones who submitted fraudulent insurance claims, who were
so unsure about NICO that they had to lie in order to get paid for
treating it.

And again - please point us towards the science.

I eagerly await your response, as do, I'm sure, my clients.

Would you like to just include, with your response, your real name and
address?

Very amused in California...

Tim Bolen

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Peter:

You lose. Even the ADA is now warning against mercury amalgams. Give
it up. Little bobbie doesn't know what he's talking about. Never
did.

And NICO has been proven in court and in the dentist's office. Read
the Pennsylvania case. Get someone to help you do some actual
research. I'm not responible to provide for your personal
inadequacies.

Helpful in California...

Tim Bolen- Hide quoted text -

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Like you're not responsible for paying
State or Federal Income taxes since 1994?
Slacker.

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