Re: Body Mass Calculator


PeterB wrote:

cathyb wrote:
PeterB wrote:

You're just being dumb.

Oh, this is just corking. PeteyB, the boy who wrote "Ascorbic acid is
the redux agent necessary for conversion of hydrogen to oxygen, so we
don't even breathe without it."

It's true that Klenner said vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is a transport
mechanism for hydrogen to fuel cellular respiration, which requires
oxygen for life, and without which you would be dead. It's difficult
to breath under those conditions. As I've said many times, my use of
the word "conversion" was not meant chemically.

Which bears no relation to the statement that ""Ascorbic acid is the
redux agent necessary for conversion of hydrogen to oxygen, so we
don't even breathe without it."

The fact that you don't understand this speaks volumes.

Oh, and you neither you nor Klenner provided any evidence for the claim
that vitamin C is neccessary for respiration.



And

"If ascorbic acid doesn't liberate oxygen from hydrogen, how does
respiration occur at the cellular level?"

Yes, based on Klenner's view that ascorbic acid is necessary for
hydrogen to fuel the Krebs cycle, aerobic respiration (using oxygen),
would not otherwise be possible.

Again, this bears no relation to your risible claim that ascorbic acid
liberates oxygen from hydrogen. You're not too bright are you, Petey?

Um, and the Kreb's cycle was elucidated many years ago, and does not
require vitamin C.



And (even better!)

"Conversion of hydrogen atoms into energy permits access to oxygen,
which is how we are able to breathe." Yeah, he really did write that.
Incredible, I know.

Yes, hydrogen is involved in many steps on the way to production of
ATP. But here. I found the simplest thing I could to describe the
process of cellular respiration for you. The title of the article is
"cellular respiration." See if it makes sense to you. Here is the
link: http://www.purchon.com/biology/aerobic.htm.

Here's the thing, Petey. Because I have an education in science ( an
honours degree in chemistry to be precise), and because neither of your
other defences have any validity, I'm not going to look at that link.
Why? Because I don't need to. It will either be irrelevant (common
with you), or it will be bull***. Because any link that tries to say
that "conversion of hydrogen atoms into energy permits access to
oxygen" occurs during the process of respiration is bull***. As any
high-school (or possibly primary school) student could tell you.



Also visit http://www.mansfield.osu.edu/~sabedon/campbl09.htm and do a
search on every instance of the word "energy." Here is an relevant
excerpt:

"Cellular respiration is a series of chemical and physical processes
which together serve to remove potential energy-containing (hydrogen)
electrons from organic compounds, use the energy thus liberated to
generate ATP, and then donate these now energy-spent electrons to
oxygen."

See? Did you not understand this quote, Petey? Because it certainly
doesn't say that hydrogen atoms are converted into energy.

At no point in cellular respiration is hydrogen converted into oxygen,
or energy. Is that clear?




And he has the nerve to call someone else "dumb" for pointing out that
he's wrong. Again.

*chuckles* I guess Catty's reference to 3 *million* cases of measles
the year before the vaccine (off by 1000%) is still stinging. ouch!!

Well, that's what the CDC say. But you know that.




PeterB

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