Re: Peter Moran admits he's never had it happen to him

Firstly, I only have your word for it that such a case exists. You have
produced no source material for it.

You can find Dr. Brenner's statement and description of the patient in
the foreword to the book "The Man Who Cures Cancer." I've already
excerpted his comments in earlier either in this thread or the other
one in the other newsgroup.

Brenner, to whom you refer constantly
as your source of information and your sole authority doesn't mention such
a case in his talk to the OTA, which I find very telling if it is such a
spectacular case as you want to make it here.

It's a spectacular case because you yourself admit that you've never
seen one COMBINED with the fact that Brenner had never seen one
previously either.

It's also spectacular because you can't find me a doctor who has seen
one either.

Secondly, it would be very surprising if such cases don't exist. My not
having seen one and Brenner not having seen one proves nothing at all.

Then put up or shut up. Find me a doctor you know who has seen one.

Certainly cases of lung cancer with metastases have been reported as
undergoing spontaneous remission. See
http://www.noetic.org/research/sr/files/chapter3.pdf .

I don't have time to read every case, but did you notice that the very
first example was a patient who took halibut capsules for an extended
period? And some vegetable tablets?

It sure is a co-inky-dink that his choice was a catabolic lipid and
some catabolic tablets. How amazing is that...Revici used catabolic
lipids too! And what happened...my oh my yet another 'spontaneous'
remission!

But much more common than spontaneous remissions are other reasons why
cancer "sometimes doesn't behave as expected". Faulty staging is common,
due to misinterpretation of radiological findings. We have already
mentioned the occasional unusually good response to palliative treatments,
such as palliative radiotherapy for inoperable lung cancer (another study
found 61 such cases). The histological diagnosis can be wrong, or the
wrong kind of cancer diagnosed, changing everything.

And you think I am wacky.

Yes, your logic is wacky when you say advanced cancers behave in an
unexpected manner when the one thing that never happens is its complete
remission.

By th way did you notice that the number of so-called spontaneous
remissons grew from one in 1960 to 25 in 1990? Natural cures became
more popular during that time period. Another co-inky-dink, I'm sure.

Let's see. For nearly a century now we have had
alternative supporters like yourself giving those with dubious cancer cures
the benefit of the doubt.

Brenner didn't give them the benefit of the doubt. Nor did Dr. Falk.
They checked it out. You know...biospy reports...before and after CT
scans...that sort of thing.

Instead of pushing the claimants to produce cured
cases in convincing numbers and of reasonable quality in the orthodox way,
the tactic has been to whinge and whine about the doctors.

Who is whining?? Dr. Brenner did what any curious doctor might do.

How many cancer cures has this validated? Yes, exactly none,

Brenner validated quite a few. Revici validated more in his book.

Last night Dr. Robert E. Fishbein, M.D., called me on the phone. He was
the Yale medical school grad who developed an undifferentiated brain
tumor at the age of 29. His prognosis was 2 to 4 months. That was in
December of 1962. Dr. Harry Zimmerman, the recognized as 'the father of
neuropathology', interpreted his biopsy.

For 43 years, Fishbein is yet another example of the unheard of
remission.

even while
more and more quacks, villains and the hopelessly deluded have been
encouraged to enter the alternative cancer marketplace. It is so easy to do
so and there is an instant band of supporters and defenders for you. Now,
that's wacky.

You won't look, so you don't see. Brenner looked, and he saw. Falk
looked, and he saw. Fishbein looked, and he lived.

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