Wild Claims


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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PeterB wrote:
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PeterB wrote:
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"PeterB" <pkm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Sdores wrote:
You are so full of it. When I go in for surgery they demand to
know all
meds including supplements. Just because you can't see any damage
from
them
doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Some cause excess bleeding like
Vitamin
E
and there are more. Get off your high horse already. Alternates
are
Godly
and Rx's are the demon according to you. Well I take both so what?
UM
MOM
Susan
So you're an idiot. Vitamin E has never, will never, cause excess
bleeding, but Warfarin (coumadin) will. Even if the combination of
natural and synthetic blood thinners (so-called) results in
abnormally
reduced clotting, it's irrational to lay the blame on essential
nutrients that perform this function with zero risk. Lay the blame
where it belongs -- on the drug the body has no mean for
controlling.
It's insane to take prescribed coumadin over fibrinogen-reducing
nutrients which work better and without risk. My uncle died from
internal bleeding while taking coumadin despite not taking
supplements.
Many have. The risk of death goes UP with reduced nutrient intake,
UP
with pharmaceutical drug use, and UP with stupidity.

PeterB

http://www.lifescript.com/channels/well_being/Vitamins/Vitamin_E.asp?Page=4


WOW!

Proof that Petey does not know what he is talking about:

"Vitamin E is a natural blood-thinner, and can negatively interfere
with
blood-thinning medications and aspirin (both of which work to thin the
blood as well). "

What a maroon!
You're playing dumb even better than usual, Markey.
Petey, please stop projecting, or get a bulb brighter than the one in
the night light.

Do nutrients
interfere with drugs, or do drugs interefere with nutrients?
Possibly both.

But only one interferes with normal metabolism -- drugs.

Oh? What about those supplements with steroids, etc.?


Our blood
cells require nutrients to maintain normal levels of fibrinogen, making
drugs dangerous and unncessary. Synthetic blood thinners are a risk no
one need accept.
Of course, that is based on your non-existent medical knowledge.

So, you disagree then with the following references:

OOPS...your lack of knowledge of the vocabulary is showing...and your use
of a strawman is obvious. We were discussing a different vitamin.

Hmm, no. Discussing both. Vernon mentioned it on March 24th.


Do try to stay on topic.

FACT: He is.



On vitamin K as a counter-acting agent to Warfarin: "They also may give
vitamin K to speed the reversal of warfarin's effects."
http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/137/11/I-41

On vitamin E's ability to reduce risk of abnormal clotting: "Among the
health-promoting actions attributed to vitamin E are its ability to
slow the oxidation of "bad" (LDL) cholesterol, prevent blood clot
formation, enhance immune response, and benefit the nervous system."
http://www.ift.org/cms/?pid=1000972&printable=1

Markey, do you EVER back anything up you say? EVER??

All the time when needed.

<snip>

My, my that sounds a great deal like Rich.

As in...* No "proof" is necessary, because every reader of this group knows
that what I say is true.

It is needed for you to back up these claims.

The burden of proof in on the accuser


*A study was posted in ASAD which Jan never responded to, but was in the
thread, that just the opposite is true. I posted several studies showing
that treatment prevents abuse.


Jan does not want to hear that, and sticks her head in her rectum.*

*I am truly gleeful that this proves, once again, that you are anti-peace,
against Jesus, and are a Hamas supporter.*

*Yes, but Jan Drew wants the medications removed from society and prayer
to Jesus being the only permitted treatment.*

*Mark Probert CAN go A single Day without lying.*

http://tinyurl.com/7w4l5

Mark Probert Makes Another Claim. Let's See* IF* He Can PROVE It!

You made a claim that you were a licensed babysitter. I was "just curious"?

Re: Researcher (Sandra Cabot) and theWarns of Cancer Risk From rBGH
(non-organic) Dairy Foods

http://tinyurl.com/d4b23


http://tinyurl.com/c3qua


http://tinyurl.com/7985k


http://tinyurl.com/9l6sh


http://tinyurl.com/cyhmt


As I pointed out to the moron, he is far from ill.


You STILL have not shown WHERE you pointed this out!



You made a claim that you were a licensed babysitter. I was "just curious"?


You STILL haven't shown us WHERE I madede that claim!


You see, you complained that I called Ilena at her ADVERTISED phone
listing.


You STILL haven't shown WHERE I did any such thing.



The thread started with a claim that vaccines suppress the immune system.
You agreed. Please do copy and paste where I agreed.


You STILL haven't done so.



An one-time troll, screw-loose nutcase posted some diatriber and you now


attack someone who has posted here for years.



Attacking??


Just WHERE did Debbee attack DC?


Please post the attacking!


You STILL haven't been able to do so.



You admitted that you stalked me to asbi. OOOOps. Do copy and paste this
claim.


You STILL haven't been able to do so.


Jul 2 2004



Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are reviewing them now.
Do show us they are being reviewed. I filed a complaint with the FTC after
I reviewed the URL you posted and saw the egregious violations. If and
when I hear from the FTC, I will let you know.

Jan 9th, 2006

Haley testifies for a fee, ergo, he is a professional expert witness.

Jan 26-06

Mark Probert" <markprobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Rich was referring to your obnoxious, abusive, stalking and harassing
posting history. That is a fact.

I am sure that there is one person who will stop watching when Dr. Barrett
goes on. She'll miss the real information from someone who is not
affiliated with "organized medicine" whatever that is.


Oh? And do tell us who that one person might be?

Then do tell us how you can be sure?

What so called *real* information do you speak of?








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