Re: The Many LIES of REPEATED Liar, Rich Shewmaker

The Many LIES of REPEATED Liar, Rich Shewmaker

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"Rich" <joshew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "JanD" <JanD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> The MANY LIES on Quackwatch that LIAR Rich Shewmaker posts EVERY TIME he
>> posts, making him a REPEATED LIAR.
>
> Many?

Yes many.
>
>
>>
>> Stephen Barrett LIES on his LYING websites:
>>
>> *Alternative therapy" is a marketing term that should not be permitted.*
>
> This is an opinion. It is therefore not a lie.

should not be permitted is a LIE.
>
>
>>
>> *While a few of those so accredited are naive physicians, most are
>> nonmedical persons who only play
>> at being doctor and use this certification as an umbrella for a host of
>> unproven New Age hokum treatments.
>
> This is true In context, it referred to acupuncture licensure. There are,
> indeed, many people who are licensed acupuncturists who sell a plethora of
> other quackery inder the umbrella of their acupuncture practice. If you
> don't believe this, check out the free newspaper or whatever advertizing
> outlet the "alternative" practitioners in your area are using.

It is NOT true. It IS in context. The entire paragraph IS a LIE.
>
>> Unfortunately, a few HMOs, hospitals, and
>> even medical schools are succumbing to the bait and exposing patients to
>> such bogus treatments when they need real medical care*
>>
>> The National Council Against Health Fraud has concluded:
>>
>> a.. Acupuncture is an unproven modality of treatment
>>
>> That clearly is a LIE!!!!!
>>
>> That said, both you and Barrett are liars, there are abstracts proving
>> the
>> effectiveness of acupuncture, it is now being used in convention
>> medicine,
>> insurance companies are paying for it
>>
>> http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/42/12/1508
>>
>> Acupuncture for chronic low back pain in older patients: a randomized,
>> controlled trial
>> C. F. Meng, D. Wang3, J. Ngeow1, L. Lao4, M. Peterson2 and S. Paget
>> Departments of Rheumatology, 1Pain Management/Anesthesiology and
>> 2Research, Hospital for Special Surgery, New York, NY, 3Department of
>> Pain Management/Anesthesiology, New York Hospital and 4Department of
>> Complementary Medicine, University of Maryland, MD, USA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Correspondence to: C. F. Meng, Hospital for Special Surgery,
>> Rheumatology, 535 E. 70th Street, New York, NY 10021, USA. E-mail:
>> mengc@xxxxxxx
>>
>> Objective. To determine if acupuncture is an effective, safe adjunctive
>> treatment to standard therapy for chronic low back pain (LBP) in older
>> patients.
>>
>> Methods. The inclusion criteria for subjects were: (i) LBP 12 weeks and
>> (ii) age 60 yr; the exclusion criteria were (i) spinal tumour, infection
>> or fracture and (ii) associated neurological symptoms. The subjects were
>> randomized to two groups. The control group of subjects continued their
>> usual care as directed by their physicians, i.e. NSAIDs, muscle
>> relaxants, paracetamol and back exercises. Subjects in the acupuncture
>> group in addition received biweekly acupuncture with electrical
>> stimulation for 5 weeks. Outcome was measured by the modified Roland
>> Disability Questionnaire (RDQ) at weeks 0, 2, 6 and 9. The primary
>> outcome measure was change in RDQ score between weeks 0 and 6.
>>
>> Results. Fifty-five patients were enrolled, with eight drop-outs.
>> Twenty-four subjects were randomized to the acupuncture group and 23 were
>> randomized to the control group. Acupuncture subjects had a significant
>> decrease in RDQ score of 4.1 ± 3.9 at week 6, compared with a mean
>> decrease of 0.7 ± 2.8 in the control group (P = 0.001). This effect was
>> maintained for up to 4 weeks after treatment at week 9, with a decrease
>> in RDQ of 3.5 ± 4.4 from baseline, compared with 0.43 ± 2.7 in the
>> control group (P = 0.007). The mean global transition score was higher in
>> the acupuncture group, 3.7 ± 1.2, indicating greater improvement,
>> compared with the score in the control group, 2.5 ± 0.9 (P < 0.001).
>> Fewer acupuncture subjects had medication-related side-effects compared
>> with the control group.
>>
>> Conclusions. Acupuncture is an effective, safe adjunctive treatment for
>> chronic LBP in older patients.
>>
>>
>> KEY WORDS: Acupuncture, Chronic low back pain, Elderly patients,
>> Randomized controlled trial.
>>
>>
>> This article has been cited by other articles: (Search Google Scholar for
>> Other Citing Articles)
>
> Well, that one is not so clear. They excluded people with documented
> reasons for back pain, then used the patient's own reports of whether they
> were getting better, in a trial that was not double, or even single
> blinded.

The conclusions are QUITE CLEAR.

Conclusions. Acupuncture is an *effective, safe* adjunctive treatment for
chronic LBP in older patients

But, YOU would NOT know!
>
>>
>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/archive/20040823/pubs/cbm/acupuncture.html
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/7ajgz
>>
>> Migraine and tension headache--a complementary and alternative medicine
>> approach.
>>
>> Woolhouse M.
>>
>> michellewoolho...@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> BACKGROUND: Migraine and tension headache are common--affecting up to 10%
>> and 40% of the Australian population respectively--and result in
>> significant
>> reduction in social activities and work capacity for sufferers.
>> OBJECTIVE:
>> This article considers the evidence for the use of a range of
>> complementary
>> therapies and treatment in the prevention and management of both migraine
>> and tension headache. DISCUSSION: Migraine and tension headache can have
>> many precipitating factors. Considering dietary and environmental factors
>> complements a migraine/headache consultation. There is evidence for the
>> role
>> of mind-body approaches, nutritional supplements such as riboflavin and
>> magnesium, and acupuncture in the treatment of headache. By using a
>> holistic
>> approach we may be able to tailor a treatment program that is both
>> effective
>> and safe.
>>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ahbvy
>
> This is a review, not a real research study at all.

So what?

>
>
>>
>> 1: Health Technol Assess. 2005 Aug;9(32):1-126. Related Articles,
>> Links
>>
>> Longer term clinical and economic benefits of offering acupuncture care
>> to
>> patients with chronic low back pain.
>>
>> Thomas KJ, Macpherson H, Ratcliffe J, Thorpe L, Brazier J, Campbell M,
>> Fitter M, Roman M, Walters S, Nicholl JP.
>>
>> School of Health and Related Research (ScHARR), University of Sheffield,
>> UK.
>>
>> OBJECTIVES: To test whether patients with persistent non-specific low
>> back
>> pain, when offered access to traditional acupuncture care alongside
>> conventional primary care, gained more long-term relief from pain than
>> those
>> offered conventional care only, for equal or less cost. Safety and
>> acceptability of acupuncture care to patients, and the heterogeneity of
>> outcomes were also tested. DESIGN: A pragmatic, two parallel group,
>> randomised controlled trial. Patients in the experimental arm were
>> offered
>> the option of referral to the acupuncture service comprising six
>> acupuncturists. The control group received usual care from their general
>> practitioner (GP). Eligible patients were randomised in a ratio of 2:1 to
>> the offer of acupuncture to allow between-acupuncturist effects to be
>> tested. SETTING: Three non-NHS acupuncture clinics, with referrals from
>> 39
>> GPs working in 16 practices in York, UK. PARTICIPANTS: Patients aged
>> 18--65
>> years with non-specific low back pain of 4--52 weeks' duration, assessed
>> as
>> suitable for primary care management by their general practitioner.
>> INTERVENTIONS: The trial protocol allowed up to ten individualised
>> acupuncture treatments per patient. The acupuncturist determined the
>> content
>> and the number of treatments according to patient need. MAIN OUTCOME
>> MEASURES: The Short Form 36 (SF-36) Bodily Pain dimension (range 0--100
>> points), assessed at baseline, and 3, 12 and 24 months. The study was
>> powered to detect a 10-point difference between groups at 12 months
>> post-randomisation. Cost--utility analysis was conducted at 24 months
>> using
>> the EuroQoL 5 Dimensions (EQ-5D) and a preference-based single index
>> measure
>> derived from the SF-36 (SF-6D). Secondary outcomes included the McGill
>> Present Pain Index (PPI), Oswestry Pain Disability Index (ODI), all other
>> SF-36 dimensions, medication use, pain-free months in the past year,
>> worry
>> about back pain, satisfaction with care received, and safety and
>> acceptability of acupuncture care. RESULTS: A total of 159 patients were
>> in
>> the 'acupuncture offer' arm and 80 in the 'usual care' arm. All 159
>> patients
>> randomised to the offer of acupuncture care chose to receive acupuncture
>> treatment, and received an average of eight acupuncture treatments within
>> the trial. Analysis of covariance, adjusting for baseline score, found an
>> intervention effect of 5.6 points on the SF-36 Pain dimension [95%
>> confidence interval (CI) -1.3 to 12.5] in favour of the acupuncture group
>> at
>> 12 months, and 8 points (95% CI 0.7 to 15.3) at 24 months. No evidence of
>> heterogeneity of effect was found for the different acupuncturists.
>> Patients
>> receiving acupuncture care did not report any serious or life-threatening
>> events. No significant treatment effect was found for any of the SF-36
>> dimensions other than Pain, or for the PPI or the ODI. Patients receiving
>> acupuncture care reported a significantly greater reduction in worry
>> about
>> their back pain at 12 and 24 months compared with the usual care group.
>> At
>> 24 months, the acupuncture care group was significantly more likely to
>> report 12 months pain free and less likely to report the use of
>> medication
>> for pain relief. The acupuncture service was found to be cost-effective
>> at
>> 24 months; the estimated cost per quality-adjusted (QALY) was pound4241
>> (95%
>> CI pound191 to pound28,026) using the SF-6D scoring algorithm based on
>> responses to the SF-36, and pound3598 (95% CI pound189 to pound22,035)
>> using
>> the EQ-5D health status instrument. The NHS costs were greater in the
>> acupuncture care group than in the usual care group. However, the
>> additional
>> resource use was less than the costs of the acupuncture treatment itself,
>> suggesting that some usual care resource use was offset. CONCLUSIONS:
>> Traditional acupuncture care delivered in a primary care setting was safe
>> and acceptable to patients with non-specific low back pain. Acupuncture
>> care
>> and usual care were both associated with clinically significant
>> improvement
>> at 12- and 24-month follow-up. Acupuncture care was significantly more
>> effective in reducing bodily pain than usual care at 24-month follow-up.
>> No
>> benefits relating to function or disability were identified. GP referral
>> to
>> a service providing traditional acupuncture care offers a cost-effective
>> intervention for reducing low back pain over a 2-year period. Further
>> research is needed to examine many aspects of this treatment including
>> its
>> impact compared with other possible short-term packages of care (such as
>> massage, chiropractic or physiotherapy), various aspects of
>> cost-effectiveness, value to patients and implementation protocols.
>>
>> PMID: 16095547 [PubMed - in process]
>> =================
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/7ajgz
>
> This is the best of these studies, but it still uses patient report rather
> than any objective measures, and thus is probably reporting placebo
> effect.

Acupuncture care was ****significantly more
effective******** in reducing bodily pain than usual care at 24-month
follow-up.

>
>>
>> Migraine and tension headache--a complementary and alternative medicine
>> approach.
>>
>> Woolhouse M.
>>
>> michellewoolho...@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> BACKGROUND: Migraine and tension headache are common--affecting up to 10%
>> and 40% of the Australian population respectively--and result in
>> significant
>> reduction in social activities and work capacity for sufferers.
>> OBJECTIVE:
>> This article considers the evidence for the use of a range of
>> complementary
>> therapies and treatment in the prevention and management of both migraine
>> and tension headache. DISCUSSION: Migraine and tension headache can have
>> many precipitating factors. Considering dietary and environmental factors
>> complements a migraine/headache consultation. There is evidence for the
>> role
>> of mind-body approaches, nutritional supplements such as riboflavin and
>> magnesium, and acupuncture in the treatment of headache. By using a
>> holistic
>> approach we may be able to tailor a treatment program that is both
>> effective
>> and safe.
>>
>
> This is the same as the "article" above. It is still just a review, not an
> experimental study.

So what?

>>
>> http://www.napa.ufl.edu/98news/alternat.htm
>>
>> 'ALTERNATIVE' MEDICINE BECOMING MAINSTREAM, UF STUDY FINDS
>> Nov. 10, 1998
>> By Victoria White
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> GAINESVILLE---Traditional medical providers may have a reputation for
>> shunning alternative therapies, but health-care teachers are getting
>> massages, learning relaxation techniques and trying other unconventional
>> treatments at about the same rate as the general population, University
>> of Florida researchers report.
>>
>> In a written survey of physicians, nurses, dentists and other health
>> professionals on UF's faculty, 52 percent of the 764 respondents said
>> they had tried an alternative treatment. An earlier survey found the same
>> percentage of Florida residents had done so.
>>
>> The results, published as a letter in this week's issue of The Journal of
>> the American Medical Association (11/11/98), add to the growing evidence
>> that so-called "alternative" medicine is rapidly heading into the
>> mainstream.
>>
>> "With this survey, we've learned that health science faculty are pretty
>> much like anyone else when it comes to their own health," said Dr. Allen
>> Neims, a professor of pharmacology and former dean of UF's College of
>> Medicine. "This is significant, because they are the role models and
>> teachers of the next generation of health-care professionals."
>>
>> Neims authored the letter with Mary Ann Burg and Shae Kosch in the
>> College of Medicine's department of community health and family medicine,
>> and Eleanor Stoller of Case Western Reserve University.
>>
>> This week's JAMA is devoted to research on nontraditional health
>> practices, collectively known as alternative, complementary or
>> integrative medicine. Such therapies are not routinely taught in U.S.
>> medical schools or practiced in the mainstream American medicine, and
>> have not been established as safe and effective by rigorous scientific
>> scrutiny.
>>
>> Neims and Burg see JAMA's interest as a sign of how important physicians
>> are beginning to view the topic.
>>
>> "I think physicians now know that their patients are using massage and
>> dietary supplements and that they're going to chiropractors," Burg said.
>> "So physicians have to figure out how to deal with a group of techniques
>> they probably don't have any training in and which to date have little
>> scientific evidence to demonstrate their effectiveness."
>>
>> About half of U.S. medical schools, including UF, offer elective courses
>> on alternative therapies, Neims said. At UF, some required courses
>> include discussion of the topic. Additionally, a UF family practice
>> clinic offers acupuncture, massage therapy, hypnosis and relaxation
>> techniques.
>>
>> "There is a tremendous amount of individuality in how integrative
>> treatments are presented to students by the faculty," Neims said. "Some
>> include quite a bit of information and others are quite resistant to it,
>> seeing it as a step backwards scientifically. While there is room for
>> both views within the college, I hope this study gives people a little
>> more sense of permission to teach these things. Teaching about them does
>> not have to be an endorsement."
>>
>> One hurdle in integrating alternative therapies into mainstream medicine
>> is that mainstream and alternative practitioners have different ideas
>> about what causes health problems, Burg said.
>>
>> "In traditional Chinese medicine, which includes acupuncture and herbal
>> therapy, they think in terms of 'chi,' which is a kind of life force, a
>> body energy," Burg said. "There is some research showing that acupuncture
>> does a good job relieving pain and other problems, but there is no
>> logical explanation within Western medicine for that."
>>
>> In a written questionnaire mailed to 1,300 UF health faculty members, 32
>> percent of those who responded said they had used massage, 24 percent
>> relaxation techniques, 23 percent dietary supplements and 16 percent
>> chiropractic. Less than 10 percent of the faculty reported using herbs,
>> acupuncture, hypnosis, homeopathic remedies or biofeedback. Women faculty
>> members were significantly more likely than men to have tried alternative
>> therapies.
>>
>> Faculty from the colleges of Health Professions and Nursing were the
>> highest users of alternative medicine -- at 76 and 74 percent,
>> respectively. Of College of Medicine respondents, 52 percent had used
>> alternative medicine. "Nurses have been doing a lot more research on
>> alternative medicine for a much longer time than people in the other
>> health professions," Burg said. "Nursing traditionally has been a
>> holistic, patient-oriented profession, which fits in well with the
>> culture of a many alternative therapies."
>>
>> Neims noted that like the American population in general, health faculty
>> are turning to nontraditional measures to maximize health, not to replace
>> traditional, Western medicine. Many people are exploring new forms of
>> treatment because they fit well with their philosophy of a mind-body
>> connection. They also are seeking a personal relationship that may be
>> difficult to forge in the typical physician office.
>>
>> "If you regularly see a massage therapist or chiropractor, that can turn
>> into a deep relationship with healing qualities of its own," Neims said.
>> "One of the things I hope results from this interest in integrative
>> medicine is that we all reaffirm that the relationship between patient
>> and physician is very, very important."
>>
>>
>>
>> Schools Opening Up to Alternative Medicine
>>
>> June 6, 2005
>> Schools Opening Up to Alternative Medicine
>>
>>
>> PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Once largely dismissed as a leftover fad from the
>> Age of Aquarius, acupuncture, herbal remedies and other forms of
>> alternative medicine are finding their way into curriculums at
>> traditional medical schools -- most recently the University of
>> Pennsylvania.
>>
>>
>> Doctors at Penn are working with Tai Sophia Institute, an alternative
>> medicine school in Maryland, on a program to teach medical students
>> about herbal therapies, meditation and other approaches that are
>> increasingly popular with the public but largely exist outside the
>> realm of mainstream medicine. It will start in August.
>>
>>
>> "We're not going to turn great surgeons into acupuncturists or
>> herbalists; that's not the idea," said Robert Duggan, co-founder of Tai
>> Sophia. "The goal is that Penn medical school graduates will be highly
>> able to speak with patients about how to guide these things into their
>> overall care."
>>
>>
>> More than a third of American adults have tried alternative therapies
>> -- including yoga, meditation, herbs and the Atkins diet -- according
>> to a 2002 government survey of 31,000 people, the largest study of its
>> kind in the United States.
>>
>>
>> Universities nationwide, in response to the burgeoning numbers, are
>> increasingly focusing on complementary medicine (used along with
>> conventional treatment) and alternative medicine (used instead of
>> conventional treatment). Some are creating their own programs and
>> others are working with alternative medicine practitioners, said Aviad
>> Haramati, a professor at Georgetown University's medical school.
>>
>>
>> "More and more there's a willingness by conventional schools to
>> recognize the CAM (complementary and alternative medicine) schools as
>> having this expertise," Haramati said. "And there's a recognition by
>> the CAM disciplines that linking with conventional academic centers to
>> foster research is a good thing."
>>
>>
>> Georgetown students work with a massage therapy school, for example,
>> and Tufts University students work with an acupuncture school, he said.
>>
>>
>> "It made perfect sense to us," said Dr. Alfred P. Fishman of Penn's
>> medical school, co-director of the collaboration. "We thought, why
>> start from scratch? This is a very respected organization with 30 years
>> of hands-on experience."
>>
>>
>> More than 95 of the nation's 125 medical schools require some kind of
>> complementary and alternative medicine coursework, according to the
>> Association of American Medical Colleges.
>>
>>
>> The new partnership will offer a master's degree in complementary and
>> alternative medicine. The degree, offered to the university's medical
>> and nursing students, will come from the Tai Sophia Institute; the
>> schools will exchange faculty members and students.
>>
>>
>> "If you had raised this 10 years ago everyone would have sneered at
>> it," Fishman said. "Today, we're moving away from being completely
>> focused on preventing disease and toward looking at what it takes to
>> (achieve and maintain) wellness. ... I think patient care will improve
>> enormously."
>>
>>
>> One critic of the trend is Dr. Steven Barrett of Allentown, a Columbia
>> University-trained psychologist who runs the Web site Quackwatch.
>>
>>
>> Alternative medicine programs are finding their way into mainstream
>> institutions not because there's proof the therapies work, Barrett
>> said, but because skeptical voices are squelched and "administrators
>> see it as a way to jump on the bandwagon and get grant money."
>>
>>
>> Penn and Tai Sophia are also developing postgraduate and continuing
>> education courses on complementary and alternative medicine. One
>> program, for example, will teach doctors about herbal medicines so they
>> can better serve their patients who are already taking them.
>>
>>
>> In addition, cardiologists at Penn's Presbyterian Medical Center are
>> working with Tai Sophia to integrate alternative therapies into
>> traditional care for heart patients. The idea is to teach the
>> cardiology staff how to develop personalized therapy plans -- including
>> everything from meditation and massage to reflexology and aromatherapy
>> -- to decrease patient stress, pain and anxiety.
>>
>>
>> "We get the benefit of their extraordinary research capabilities and
>> educational facilities. They get the benefit of an institution that
>> understands the world of (unconventional medicine)," Duggan said.
>>
>>
>> Fishman said the research possibilities are exciting as well. For
>> example, new brain imaging technology will allow researchers to
>> physically explore how things like herbs, acupuncture, even prayer, can
>> make people feel better.
>>
>>
>> "In the days before we could image the brain it was very hard to know
>> about how these things worked, why placebos work in some people," he
>> said. "We can image the brain now and see why they feel better. Nothing
>> is off limits."
>
> These last two are gushing news articles that are not scientific at all,
> and represent the typical wishful thinking and inaccuracy of science
> reporting in popular journalism.

So the ARROGANT, Rich Shewmaker, who doesn't give a damn who lies in this
newsgroup, *thinks* he knows more than a co-founder of a alternative medical
school and the cardiologists at Penn's Presbyterian Medical Center!
>>
>
> I'm not going to wade through the rest of your links.

OH? Why not?

Afraid they prove your website to be ONE HUGE LIE?

As in:

THE IN NO ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE?!?!?!?!

Oh, yes, I forgot, now he will divert to ye ole insults, when his back is to
the wall.
>
>
> [Snip twelve links that may or may not be relevant.]

Umm, no, I don't think so, they INDEED prove both YOU and BARRETT to be
BLATANT LIARS.

And YOU to be a REPEATED LIAR, EVERY TIME YOU POST THE *PROVEN* LYING
WEBSITES

> (Jan will claim this snipping is dishonest. Anyone else who wants to see
> them knows to look upthread for them.)

Wrong AGAIN!

http://www.med.upenn.edu/progdev/compmed/


http://www.karinya.com/schools.htm


http://www.mcgill.ca/reporter/36/17/collet/


http://www.intstudy.com/articles/twealtmd.htm


http://www.aiam.edu/


http://focus.hms.harvard.edu/1998/Nov27_1998/forum.html


http://www.omahahealth.com/


http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6920/2/2


http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/181_05_060904/bro10359_fm.html


http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/280/9/784


http://www.uchc.edu/ocomm/features/stories/stories03/feature_alternat...


http://www.whccamp.hhs.gov/fr4.html



> --
>
>
> --Rich
>

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