Re: Nitrites in Cured Meat -- More Dangerous Than Previously Thought
- From: Mark Probert <markprobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:47:34 -0500
JanD wrote:
"Mark Thorson" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:43B44BBC.C3D89A84@xxxxxxxxxxxx
It's funny that some people in MHA get so concerned about non-issues, like feeding surplus pizza dough to cattle, but completely ignore genuine health issues. Recent information about the health effects of nitrites used in cured meat products is showing that what we thought we knew even 10 years ago was wrong or inaccurate.
A very good article.
However, once again Mark starts off slamming the people on MHA.
I guess Mark can't help himself, perhaps he has been asleep?
Is red meat cured meat?
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Subject: Damage control? / meat consumption
Two common beliefs that now require revision are:
1) Nitrosamines are the principal health threat from adding nitrites to meat. Although nitrosamines are poweful carcinogens, new evidence indicates that nitrosamides may be the greater danger.
2) Meat must be cooked at high temperature to form the dangerous N-nitroso compounds (such as nitrosamines). That's not true at all. Although high temperature cooking will cause formation of these compounds, they also form in the intestines from precursors in cured meats that contain little or no N-nitroso compounds (a process called "endogenous N-nitrosation").
Relevant to (1):
Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 1996 Aug;5(8):599-605. Maternal consumption of cured meats and vitamins in relation to pediatric brain tumors. Preston-Martin S, Pogoda JM, Mueller BA, Holly EA, Lijinsky W, Davis RL. Department of Preventive Medicine, University of Southern California/Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center, Los Angeles 90033-0800, USA.
Brain tumors are the leading cause of death from childhood cancer, yet the causes of most of these tumors remain obscure. Few chemicals are effective in causing brain tumors experimentally after systemic administration of low doses; a notable exception is one group of N-nitroso compounds, the nitrosamides (in particular the nitrosoureas). Feeding pregnant animals nitrosamide precursors (e.g., sodium nitrite and an alkylamide such as ethylurea) causes a high incidence of nervous system tumors in offspring. This population-based epidemiological study was designed to test the hypothesis that maternal consumption during pregnancy of meats cured with sodium nitrite increases the risk of brain tumors among offspring. The intake of vitamins C and E blocks endogenous formation of nitroso compounds and was expected to be protective. Mothers of 540 children under age 20 with a primary brain tumor diagnosed during 1984-1991 and 801 control children in the same 19 counties on the U.S. West Coast were interviewed. Risk increased with increasing frequency of eating processed meats [odds ratio (OR) = 2.1 for eating at least twice a day compared to not eating; 95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.3-3.2; P = 0.003). Risk also increased with increasing average daily grams of cured meats or mg of nitrite from cured meats (P for each <0.005) but not with nitrate from vegetables. Daily use of prenatal vitamins throughout the pregnancy decreased risk (OR = 0.54; CI = 0.39-0.75). Risk among mothers who consumed above the median level of nitrite from cured meat was greater if vitamins were not taken (OR = 2.4; CI = 1.4-3.6) than if they were (OR = 1.3). These effects were evident for each of three major histological types and across social classes, age groups, and geographic areas. This largest study to date of maternal diet and childhood brain tumors suggests that exposure during gestation to endogenously formed nitroso compounds may be associated with tumor occurrence. Laboratory exploration is needed to: (a) define dietary sources of exposure to alkylamides; (b) investigate the reactivity of nitrite in high concentration such as around bits of cured meats in the stomach after ingestion compared to nitrite in dilute solution; and (c) confirm that simultaneous ingestion of alkylamides and cured meats leads to the endogenous formation of nitrosamides.
Cancer Causes Control. 2005 Aug;16(6):619-35. A review: dietary and endogenously formed N-nitroso compounds and risk of childhood brain tumors. Dietrich M, Block G, Pogoda JM, Buffler P, Hecht S, Preston-Martin S. School of Public Health, University of California-Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720-7360, USA.
Maternal dietary exposure to N-nitroso compounds (NOC) or to their precursors during pregnancy has been associated with risk of childhood brain tumors. Cured meat is one source of exposure to dietary NOC and their precursors. Most epidemiological studies that have examined the role of maternal consumption of cured meats during pregnancy have found a significant positive association between maternal intake of cured meat and the risk of childhood brain tumor (CBT). NOC consist of two main groups, N-nitrosamines and N-nitrosamides. The carcinogenicity profiles of NOC suggest that N-nitrosamides rather than N-nitrosamines are the compounds that may be associated with CBT and that they should be investigated more closely in epidemiological studies. We present a review of the chemical and carcinogenic properties of NOC in connection with the findings of case-control studies. This approach may be helpful in determining the essential information that must be collected in future epidemiological studies on CBT.
Relevant to (2):
Nutr Cancer. 2002;42(1):70-7. Effect of vegetables, tea, and soy on endogenous N-nitrosation, fecal ammonia, and fecal water genotoxicity during a high red meat diet in humans. Hughes R, Pollock JR, Bingham S. Dunn Human Nutrition Unit, Medical Research Council, Cambridge CB2 2XY, UK.
Red meat increases colonic N-nitrosation, and this may explain the positive epidemiological relationship between red meat intake and colorectal cancer risk. Vegetables, tea, and soy have been shown to block N-nitroso compound (NOC) formation and are associated with protection against colorectal cancer. To determine whether these supplements affect fecal NOC excretion during consumption of a high red meat (420 g/day) diet, 11 male volunteers were studied over a randomized series of 15-day dietary periods. Seven of these subjects completed a further dietary period to test the effects of soy (100 g/day). Soy significantly suppressed fecal apparent total NOC (ATNC) concentration (P = 0.02), but supplements of vegetables (400 g/day as 134 g broccoli, 134 g brussels sprouts, and 134 g petits pois) and tea extract (3 g/day) did not affect mean levels of fecal ATNC, nitrogen and ammonia excretion, and fecal water genotoxicity. However, fecal weight was increased (P < 0.001) and associated with reduced transit time (r = 0.594, P < 0.0001), so that contact between ATNC, nitrite, and ammonia and the large bowel mucosa would have been reduced. Longer transit times were associated with elevated fecal ATNC concentrations (r = 0.42, P = 0.002). Fecal nitrite was significantly suppressed during the tea supplement compared with the meat-only (P = 0.0028) and meat + vegetables diets (P = 0.005 for microgram NO2/g).
Cancer Res. 2003 May 15;63(10):2358-60. Haem, not protein or inorganic iron, is responsible for endogenous intestinal N-nitrosation arising from red meat. Cross AJ, Pollock JR, Bingham SA. Medical Research Council, Dunn Human Nutrition Unit, Wellcome Trust/MRC Building, Cambridge CB2 2XY, United Kingdom.
Many N-nitroso compounds (NOC) are carcinogens. In this controlled study of 21 healthy male volunteers, levels of NOC on a high (420 grams) red meat diet were significantly greater (P = 0.001) than on a low (60 grams) meat diet but not significantly greater when an equivalent amount of vegetable protein was fed. An 8-mg supplement of haem iron also increased fecal NOC (P = 0.006) compared with the low meat diet, but 35-mg ferrous iron had no effect. Endogenous N-nitrosation, arising from ingestion of haem but not inorganic iron or protein, may account for the increased risk associated with red meat consumption in colorectal cancer.
[Note that haem iron comes from breakdown
products of blood -- the ancient rabbis who
developed the kosher dietary laws may have
been on to something when they required
through removal of blood from meat.]
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